> >> the difference is mostly in top end and bottom end speed reg. apps >> dont >> seem any faster but processor intensive apps run smoother/faster > > That would include anything by Adobe? What about Office v.X? Yes Photoshop rendering/etc is where I see the largest increase .,..never used office > >> I would either buy a G3/450 and bump it to 500 or go with a 400/450 >> G4 and >> bump it up < so far 500 is all a B&W can handle - apple restriction > > > I don't DO overclocking. It's not the risk it's the fat I'd make my G3 > board warranty void. Mind you 'm guessing fitting a G4 would do that > anyway. Naahhh I'd much rather just buy something that is fast and keep > the manufacturers warranty on the upgrade. > Thats what I toyed with for awhile, but to be honest I havent much use for a manufacturers warrenty when it came down to it. If something goes wrong with my B&W I doubt my mac is still under warranty anyway, whether it is or isnt, Ive always troubleshooted or replaced what I needed to. with the 4 macs Ive owned sending something to Apple has never really been an option, now if I bought a NEW mac at any point in my life - voiding the warranty would be kinda foolish =) (unril the warranty is up) also if you ever add anything faster in MHZ to your B&W you will have to adjust the MB to accept it < unless as in my case you switch out a g3/400 for a g4/400 then all is needed is to flash the firmware < can always flash back to orig, firmware (Id assume) if needed use of the warranty > <as a rule of thumb most any Zif can be overclocked 50mhz over without any need of a cooling fan-and on a 350mhz thats a 20% processor speed increase for $0 =) >
>> honestly I didnt see much improvewment between the G3/400 and the >> G4/400, >> but then when bumped to 450 it showed itsself... check xlr8 for others >> reports =) not much dif between G3/400 and a G4/400 in speed but >> there >> does seem to be netween a G3/450 and a G4/450 > > Anyone know any games, other than Quake III and all it's various > spin-offs, that use AltiVec? I kow people on here are dreadfully > serious and don't play games much but I thought I'd ask... > Im a pretty serious UT gamer / but still running OS9.2 >>> How the mullets did you get that so cheap? They are �150 new here! >> >> Ebay > > God damn. Is it a genuine 'for the Mac' version? I had one in my PC > before I got peeved and sold it. It was a god like card - I had a > digital add-on board for it with a little break-out for TOSLink and > everything. I don't think they have finished the OS X drivers yet > though so it'd be less use to me. Yes it is a genuine mac version <saw one that went a month or so before mine *with a voodoo3<flashed> and it sold for $35 for the two (talking about missing out on a good deal =( ) > all-in-all Id do some research before spending any serious $ on a Soundblaster <xlr8 even has a single forum dedicated to these troublesome buggers started by a Creative guy to help us mac owners out in sympathy> in most cases they are much more trouble than they are worth < crashes systems > they are quite unstable and have almost 0 support for macs from creative..so might have a osx driver-setup in the distant future... but took them a couple years just to come out with a new/more stable driver. and there has only been ONE update to the orig. that I know of. From advice and tinkerings from other users I think Ive finially got it stable enough to use on a daily basis. If you do get one dont expect it to be a plug/play device ( I did and it reaked havok on my system ) found out the hard way, you must also take out the card if you have to reformat your HD and install anything past 8.5 btw from the forums that I read there were stores/online/etc blowing them out at prices under $50 at one point. (xlr8 forum) * to show the great support they have for mac...ex: the hyped EAD (or whatever sound tech) for games < mainly DeusEx and UT > that the SB is capable of for game enhancement is non-existant for Mac versions of the game (they only catered to PC with the patches produced) both UT and SB are about 3yrs old and still no patch/support in sight for a MAC. Im not holding my breath either =) -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:g-list@;mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:g-list-off@;mail.maclaunch.com> For digest mode, email: <mailto:g-list-digest@;mail.maclaunch.com> Subscription questions: <mailto:listmom@;lemlists.com> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
