Occasionally conflict in ata device master/slave settings SEEM to work but result in very strange behavior under certain circumstances. This is true of ALL ata devices. (you mentioned other ata devices) You need to know ALL the ata device settings not just the hard drives. And it is not difficult to set them so that there is no possible conflict. Even though the card may support cable select it is not clear that MacOS 10 will cooperate with that card.
An ata device conflict may not be the problem. It may or may not be part of the problem. I can't think of any reason to leave device conflict in doubt when it is so easy to clearly define the devices. Knowing what ALL device specifications are can sometimes help.
Here is a common story that I hear all the time.
" I recently took a HD from my OLD Mac and installed it in my NEW Mac and I am having a problem. I can't imagine what the problem could possibly be?????? My NEW Mac was working fine before the new HD was installed. My OLD Mac was working fine when I removed the HD."
The way Apple does things allows for a great deal of flexibility when compared with Microsoft. Apple generally allows the boot device to be master or slave or firewire (YIKES native bus may not allow firewire boots) and on any bus.
I apologize if I have belabored this issue. I am not only writing to Carolyn but I am trying to help anyone who might get involved in disk swapping. I hope that this is the problem with Carolyn's machine. It will be an easy fix and she will up an running and happy. If it isn't the problem we will need to delve into other possible approaches.
On Jan 6, 2004, at 6:47 AM, Carolyn Harvey wrote:
Larry Blodgett wrote:
2 simple questions What are the settings on each ata device? (master or slave) And what ata buses are used for what device?
Sorry, Larry, I thought I gave this info but it kind of got lost amongst my ramblings. The original HD (where system 9 is) is connected to it's original bus, as master I presume, whatever the factory setting would be; the second HD (where system 10 is) is connected to an ata133 controller card, and I left the jumpers set at "cable select" when I installed it. My G4's manual says the cable select setting isn't supported, but I think it's just referring to the original bus; it has worked fine on the controller card. Thanks.
Carolyn
On Jan 5, 2004, at 9:47 PM, Carolyn Harvey wrote:
I don't know what's going on, spent an hour on the phone with Apple tech support and also with semi-local Apple authorized dealer/repair (not the newer Apple Store, not in this part of the boonies!) and still not getting Log-in screen nor Setup screen after a Jaguar clean install. I can call the dealer/repair store again tomorrow, but thought somebody might be able to shed some light on this tonight.
My system: G4/400 Yikes, with second 80-gig internal Seagate Barracuda HD connected to Sonnet Tempo ATA133 PCI card, where 10.2.6 resided peacefully and was main boot drive until yesterday. (The original 10-gig internal West. Dig. HD has 9.2.1 on it and is still controlled by its original bus; ...) (snip).... From OS9 I can open it (the Jaguar volume) and see that apparently all the files are there, and I can set the control panel to reboot with it. But then I just get that blue swirly screen, with no menu bar, no icons, no log-in screen, no dock, no response to any amount of clicking, nada.
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