Hello James, This is much to chew about. Thank you for responding, and my thanks to all in the group (Wayne, et. al.) who have taken the trouble to provide some light on the topic. I will respond within the body of this post. Now, the scenario at my home was the network outlined in my last query, which included a beige G3 (running OS 9.2.2), and a B+W G3 running OS X.2.8 - no printer involved. Admittedly, I did not try simple file sharing w/ AppleTalk turned off, though on my own I have both enabled and never experience problems with my own machines/network (which includes many flavors of Mac OS) - I can mount whatever-wherever; in reference to my friend's G4, I could go to my machines and mount it fine; I *could NOT* go to the G4 and mount my machines, though the networking selections were identical (yes, via Ethernet, TCP/IP chosen, AppleTalk and file sharing enabled, and FTP enabled). The real curiosity was that, on the G4, I could "see" via the silly alias my OS X G3, but the OS 9 G3 was ne'er to be found, hence my query re: compatibility - this will be a non-issue on my friend's system, which is identical to mine except that a printer is involved ->
On my friend's system, he is interfacing 2 brand-new EMacs (Panther-driven), the G4 in question, a router (it's probably an active hub), and the HP printer, connected via Ethernet (not serial); I had thought he had mentioned 1600 as the model, but maybe not - I do know that connection is indeed Ethernet. The EMacs perform just fine, the G4 (also, again, Panther-driven), with identical network selections, does not. My first thought: you have something physically wrong with the Ethernet port - so bring it to my house to test it (Internet is not available at his location) - Internet performed fine, so it's not physical, I am guessing. Now, on with the embedded responses: On 8/1/04 11:05 PM, James S Jones of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent > The topography of this network isn't clear. What machine was your > friend using as a server? The G4 in question > What OS was that running? 10.3.4 > Is there a router > involved? A switch or hub? I believe a hub > > In the test with your machines, was your beige G3 set to AppleTalk over > ethernet? Yes > Could you connect the B&W to the beige and vice versa? Yes > It sounds like AppleTalk and/or file sharing isn't set up quite right on > the G3s, but it clearly is on the G4--and it's configured correctly if > you can connect to it from the G3s. The other machines connect to each other fine, but I'll read on... > If this setup is still connected > and running, try this. Make note of the IP address of the B&W and > choose Connect to Server from the G4's Finder Go menu (or, <cmd><k> > from the desktop) and enter afp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, where the x's are > replaced by the IP address of the B&W. Does the drive then mount on the > desktop? I'll try it > > The drive 'alias' scenario you described is how 10.3 originally worked > when connecting via the 'network' drive icon (or, <shift><cmd><k> from > the desktop). Users had (rightly) a had a fit over this and Apple > changed it. Your friend should apply the 10.3.4 combo update to the G4 > for this and other reasons. > > As for the HP printer, there is no LaserJet 1600. There was a DeskJet > 1600--a nasty, overpriced junker--that could be fitted with ethernet, > but wasn't necessarily so equipted. The only ways to connect to a > printer in OS X are via USB, ethernet or Airport. If you have a > LocalTalk, serial or parallel printer, it can may be usable, but only > if it's shared over a network connection and even then, only if there > are drivers for it. You can use a LocalTalk or serial printer if it's > connected to a machine with the appropriate hardware and running OS 9 > with printer sharing enabled or even older systems using the software > LocalTalk/ethernet bridge. Brandon Wise reports success using an old > LaserWriter this way. > > If your friend has a DeskJet without ethernet, tell him to take it to a > recycler and get a new printer with USB. If it's a LaserJet, and > doesn't already have ethernet, it might work via an older Mac in a > 'server' role, but whether that would be worthwhile depends on the > model, speed and features. > Duly noted. Thank you for the long response, James. Best regards, Dana > On Aug 1, 2004, at 6:15 PM, Dana Collins wrote: > >> Actually, it's my friend using AppleTalk, *or* file sharing (if that >> is now >> distinguished in Panther) - he's trying to interface the G4 with 2 >> Emacs >> just purchased, and an HP LaserJet (1600 I believe). The Emacs perform >> flawlessly via AppleTalk (though your suggestion bears sharing; he >> would >> have to check to see if an Ethernet card is available for the model >> printer >> he has) - the G4 refuses to go out and look around (so to speak). I >> find it >> very strange that it (the G4) can do all the network things one is >> supposed >> to do with the Ethernet port *except* outgoing file sharing (again >> other >> units can reach out and connect TO the G4; the G4 can't reciprocate) - >> it >> does not make sense. > -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
