Thanks Bruce,

Reading some of the upgraded posts here, I honestly feel that I might also
be getting in over my head in terms of the actual *doing*. Most of this is
gibberish to me.

What is a G4 Yikes machine? or Sawtooth? (As you can probably tell, while I
am a Mac lover, I am in the point and click category! (well a bit above
that, but not much!!)

Thanks for your help!

Nina

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> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 22:34:53 -0400
> To: "G-List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: G-List Digest #1495
> 
> On Sep 1, 2004, at 9:50 AM, Nina Sutcliffe wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm new to the list here. I have a Beige G3/266Mhz with 320 megs ram
>> and I'd
>> like to upgrade it to a G4. I've heard that it can be upgraded to a
>> G4/500
>> but the problem for running certain programs is that it lacks a USB
>> port. My
>> model also doesn't have an internal modem. My mac tech thinks it's a
>> waste
>> of time and money to do an upgrade, but I'm wondering. It's a solid
>> machine
>> other than the fact that it can't run some of the newer software that
>> requires G4.
> 
> My own home machine is a G4-450 upgraded G3 DT with 768 mb of RAM, an
> 80 GB drive, a 40GB drive, a Toshiba DVD-R/RW CD-R/RW with a ATA133
> drive controller, a Radeon 7000 video card and a USB/Firewire combo
> card. It runs OS X 10.2.8 quite well, but that's a total investment of
> something like $700 over the three years I've owned it. There's no way
> I could possibly recoup that if I sold it now. I'd do much better to
> part it out.
> 
> Your Mac tech is right. I've put this system together over time, but
> still spent a lot of money on it over the years, and it's really only a
> low end G4 system. The lowest original G4 from Apple the Yike is a
> better system.
> 
> If I were to start now, I'd save that money, and in all likelyhood just
> buy a G5 iMac. (Lust Object #1 right now 8-)
> 
> The beige G3 series has, imo, reached the end of it's economic
> life-span...lavishing money on them now would be better spent buying an
> upgraded system, not system upgrades.
> 
> A minimal G4 upgrade is about $140, 800Mhz is $250, a USB card is
> $10-$15, so if you're comfortable with that kind of expenditure, go for
> it. If you're running programs that need a G4 you want to upgrade the
> memory, too. That costs $126 for 3 256 MB DIMMS right now to max it
> out.
> 
> That puts you in the range of $275-$380...
> 
> For that money you could probably score a G4 Yikes machine, or even a
> G4 Sawtooth, which gets you built-in firewire, built-in USB, a faster
> bus, better video and continued OS support, or even (if you're lucky) a
> newer system than either of those.
> 
> A few hundred bucks would upgrade a Sawtooth to a 800 or higher MHz G4,
> and it'll keep up with that processor, or let you just buy a newer G4
> mac to start with.
> 
> You don't mention the software you want to use, but if it requires a
> G4, you don't want to try it with a minimal system I'll wager.
> 
> The low price these systems get on e-bay is indicative of their value
> right now.
> 
> They're good solid computers, but it doesn't make economical sense to
> spend a whole lot on upgrading them.
> 
> --
> Bruce Johnson
> 
> This is the sig who says 'Ni!'


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