Paul. Wow! Nice speech, to which I agree to most. I am a Mac user for both the software and hardware. The complete package makes the Mac a Mac.
All these people wanting a cheaper machine running an Apple OS don't get it. The Mac is a complete solution and 'it just works' because it isnt a box of hardware thrown together. I remember the clone days and the massive product range. OSX has doubled Apples market share, but ask yourself are they trying to knock out Microsoft, do they want the market penetration MS have or do they just want to increase it slightly and continue to develop top notch machines and a killer OS? If Apple ever release OSX for the standard PC or a variant it will be a disaster, annoy so many diehard Mac users, and put them as a direct competitor to Microsoft. At present they are mainly a hardware company with a complete software package. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Ideas That Will Never Die From: "paul beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 01/09/2008 02:32 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Share holders, could be assumed to, always want "more". > If you aren't a shareholder, please don't presume to know what actual shareholders want. > > > > And your "independently derived" ideas have been commonplace since the > early > > 1990s, if not earlier. > > > I have been otherwise"occupied". My own speculations have come out of > what I have been exposed to on LEM. > I suspect others, as well as myself, have long wanted to have an > Apple OS on any machine they had available . > It was some of the more controversial aspects of my proposals here > that seemed to draw a lot of fire. > > I don't know if these ideas are so commonplace after all. I take my > cues from Bruce and the others as to the > "commonplace" of Mac community norms. And many have been highly > resistant to these ideas. > Amongst developers, however, I can believe these ideas have been > speculated about for a long time. > at the risk of being accused of an ad hominem attack, these arguments are very similar to those of the great unwashed, ie Windows fanboys, who enjoy tinkering and playing with dip switches and assembling frankenboxes far more than actually turning on the power and having a consistent productive experience each and every time. the idea of licensing dates back to before Windows 95 and as you may recall (not sure how conversant you are with the history of the Mac: I can't help but think you're pretty new to it) there were licensed clones in the late 90s. It didn't last, partly due to quality issues and the idea of brand dilution but mostly because Himself returned to run Apple and made the decision to simplify the product line. Anyone who remembers those days remembers a plethora of hardware items -- Preformas with cryptic 4 digit names, the LCs, Quadras, Centrises, the PowerBooks and Duos -- vs what we have today -- MacBooks in two flavors, the mini, the iMac, and the Pro line. I think if you understood the history, you might be able to understand the present. But as far as I can tell, you don't know how we got here. Who cares what developers think? They get access to software earlier than we do, to discounted hardware, to an entirely different experience than the end-user sees. So what if they would like to see cheaper kit or be able to run OS X on their toaster? Anyone who has never heard of Darwin or never seen "Welcome to Darwin!" in a Terminal window doesn't have very much credibility as a serious Mac user. Likewise anyone who doesn't know who John Gruber is or who doesn't read/hasn't heard of him or Daring Fireball is also not all that up to speed on the state of the market. Now to try and ignore this thread as well. -- Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ <paulbeard.org> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
