On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So to slur me as you have implied merely means you have
> no idea the battles I have fought nor the sacrifices made



Oh, what florid prose. Can we see your medals again, grandad?

>
> I
>
>
> > who enjoy
> > tinkering and playing with dip switches and assembling frankenboxes far
> more
> > than actually turning on the power and having a consistent productive
> > experience each and every time.
> > the idea of licensing dates back to before Windows 95 and as you may
> recall
> > (not sure how conversant you are with the history of the Mac:
>
> Don't let that stop you. I suppose being an LEM lister for almost a
> decade and $ 2.10 will get me a venti caffee Americano at any
> Starbucks in the land. Respect from another lister . Not so easy to
> find.
>

You've been on the LEM list for almost a decade? Why, that's almost as long
there has been such a thing as OS X with the Darwin kernel and the icky CLI.
What a splendid record of achievement . . . .  BTW, respect is granted at
first but lost quickly based on merit.


> > I can't help
> > but think you're pretty new to it) there were licensed clones in the late
> > 90s. It didn't last, partly due to quality issues and the idea of brand
> > dilution but mostly because Himself returned to run Apple and made the
> > decision to simplify the product line. Anyone who remembers those days
> > remembers a plethora of hardware items -- Preformas with cryptic 4 digit
> > names, the LCs, Quadras, Centrises, the PowerBooks and Duos -- vs what we
> > have today -- MacBooks in two flavors, the mini, the iMac, and the Pro
> > line.
> > I think if you understood the history, you might be able to understand
> the
> > present. But as far as I can tell, you don't know how we got here.
>
> We who? I replaced my first Mac motherboard 8 years ago!
>
> > Who cares what developers think?
>
> You said the ideas I referred to where commonplace. I agreed where
> developers would be concerned as they would logically be the ones to
> see the potential implications of an Intel based architecture
>

No, the ideas were commonplace in the marketplace back in the 90s. By
reg'lar people, not developers, but back in the day when Mac hardware was
astronomically expensive, like 5K for barebones workstation (I have an early
9500 at a throbbing 120Mhz, but with only the barest essentials -- 64 Mb
RAM, a whopping 340Mb drive).

>
>
>
> They get access to software earlier than we
> > do, to discounted hardware, to an entirely different experience than the
> > end-user sees. So what if they would like to see cheaper kit or be able
> to
> > run OS X on their toaster?
> > Anyone who has never heard of Darwin or never seen "Welcome to Darwin!"
> in a
> > Terminal window doesn't have very much credibility as a serious Mac user.
>
> Because I have spent most of my Mac use with OS 9 which has no CLi and
> my OS X time is spent at the university has been to learn applications
> rather than CLI scripting you assume you can judge me. Get off the
> high horse dude!
>

Don't blame me for your lack of curiosity: one of the key benefits to many
is the ability to automate and leverage that command line interface.
 Seriously? Grow up and learn what the benefits and advantages are before
you decide "oh, I'd rather Apple invest in lots of hardware certification
for off-price Taiwanese components than actually improve the functionality.
After all, I never use it, so what do I care?"

>
> --
Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/
<paulbeard.org>

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