Hi Dan,

> Ok.  I'm pre-coffee... so...  18 years huh?   Then why didn't you
> bother to say that the apps themselves don't work????  That does
> kindof change the WHOLE nature of the issue... </rant>

I said literally "the programs don't work".

> >My disks seem to be fine.
>
> Except that you have fatal i/o error on the source and your
> destination is obviously corrupted, since apps aren't working right.

All apps work perfectly. Only about half of my classic apps stopped
working under Tiger  (like Illustrator 9 and all 3 Quark XPress
versions I use) i.e. directly after the "upgrade" they became
unavailable. Under Panther everything is still perfect.

> >What does input/output error actually mean? That the file is
> >busy when being cloned?
>
> No, not busy.
>
> It means rsync tried to read the data from the HD and it FAILED.  The
> hard drive refused to provide the data because of a FATAL error.
> Either the hard drive had a controller problem or the the data blocks
> involved have become unreadable.  Further details might be available
> in your system log.

I did a file-level clone with the new CCC under Tiger and everything
went well. So perhaps the old CCC apps had some bugs?

> >Can I just look up the BootX file on an installer CD and replace the
> >flaky one with that?
>
> IFF (If and ONLY if) it's just those files or directories involved,
> then yes.  BUT given your other issues, I'm wondering what else has
> died on that drive.

The error occurred always only on the BootX-file. Before the error
occurred I was successfully cloning both my drives twice a week w/o
any errors. The few errors I had before were probably caused because
in the beginning I was cloning in the background thus actually
changing the drive I was cloning ...

But now the clincher: When I was busy replacing the BootX file from an
older Panther clone on a FireWire drive I accidentally put the

> I'm thinking you need to find out how bad the problem is.  It may be
> that your source drive is dying.  It may be that the media just grew
> a few bad blocks.  You need to get your user data backed up, check
> the log files, then repave that whole drive (all its volumes).  Erase
> / Zero it, at least two passes, to make sure all the bad blocks get
> mapped out.  Check the logs to make sure there were no fatal
> controller errors.  If none, then it might be safe to reload it from
> scratch.
>
> ...If the backups you have are block-level clones, then you might not
> be able to trust them!  A perfect copy of corrupted data is itself
> corrupted...
>
> HTH,
> - Dan.
> --
> - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth
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