On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:58 PM, James E. Therrault > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> lampbay wrote: >>> Running any form of Windows or Microsoft software on my Mac is not >>> the issue - not because I dislike MS software, but because I prefer >>> Apple and Mac software. Plus, I don't want to have any pesky bugs >>> to >>> deal with - that's the main reason I switched to Apple - >>> afterwards I >>> discovered what a pleasure working and playing with a Mac is. >>> >>> Here's an example - the G4 eMac had a Pioneer or Sony combo or >>> superdrive, higher-quality name brand hard drives and a CRT screen >>> for those who prefer them to LCDs. The pre-Intel Apples were >>> manufactured better - the machines are sturdier and the parts last >>> longer. Why get technical about the logic board and the case - the >>> facts are that the newer Macs - with the possible exceptions of the >>> most expensive MacPro and the new aluminum "brick" MacBook Pro - are >>> built with cheaper parts and with less quality than the older boxes. >>> Which would you rather have - a Seagate or Western Digital hard >>> drive >>> or a Toshiba? How about a Pioneer DVD writer vs. a Matshita? >>> >>> Actually, I'd prefer a Mac mini (that I had bought at a low price - >>> even a refurbished one) that I'd remove the hard drive and >>> superdrive from, allowing it to run much cooler. Then I'd plug in >>> my >>> externally-powered boot drive, externally-powered DVD writer, CRT, >>> keyboard and mouse to USB ports. >>> >>> What I want from Apple is higher quality hardware at a lower price - >>> because I paid more than for a PC to get not just superior software, >>> but, at least, comparable quality hardware to the best that I can >>> buy >>> off the shelf or online. Now, I will admit, that PCs have gone the >>> route of cheaper insides as well and that is due to the marketplace >>> and the fact that just about everything is manufactured and >>> assembled >>> in China and the far East. Apple has dropped the price a bit on >>> their latest notebooks but they are still asking too much for their >>> hardware - but that has always been an argument that since Apple >>> provides a superior software product and the hardware it runs on is >>> designed and engineered to work flawlessly (for the most part) with >>> that software as well as that produced by other developers who >>> follow >>> Apple's exacting specs. Apple could make me happy by allowing users >>> to buy a version of Mac OS (?) that will run on our choice of PC >>> hardware - say a DIY homebuilt that has exactly what we want in and >>> outside of the box. My main complaint with Apple, since the move to >>> Intel, is that the hardware inside their boxes is getting poorer - >>> except for the performance of the Intel chip and the memory you can >>> add yourself. Plus, the heat of packing so much into a small space >>> can contribute to early failure of parts. Both Intels I've used >>> were >>> sent in for warranty repairs - logic board failure and superdrive >>> failure - both within one year of purchase. >>> >>> >>> J. >>> >> >> >> You make a good point regarding quality then vs. quality now. >> >> For example, my mainstay desktop 400 MHz G4 Gigabit bought new in >> January of 2001 runs 24/7 except when sleeping. I have replaced all >> the >> drives, (upgraded to a superdrive Pioneer in 2006 and replaced all >> hard >> drives twice to increase capacity, not failure based). Other than >> that, >> this thing has performed flawlessly and is currently running 10.4.11 >> along with Classic. >> >> I think the drop in quality of new Macs is related to Chinese >> manufacture as a basis. Cheaper parts indeed! >> Problem is, the last of those 'quality' macs would have been the G5s than, right? we've got five, four of which have been plagued with issues, one was completely replaced by apple it was so bad (replacement hasn't been that great) G4s have generally been fine, they're getting old so the failure rate has gone up quite a bit now. we did have one that could not run osx, ended up having to put in a new processor in to make it work. So far so good on the intel macs we've got nothing has broken yet. as a side note, by far the most reliable macs we've had have been iMacs. from the first bondi blue one right up to the new aluminum intel versions. Only one we don't have is the old bondi blue, needed a machine that could run 10.4, so it got retired and given away. -sam --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
