On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Dan wrote:

>
> At 12:13 AM -0400 3/18/2009, insightinmind wrote:
>> Is it possible to install 3rd party drivers during a Safe Boot?
>
> yes.
>
>> If so, is it better?
>
> No.
>
> Slap the files in and you still have to reboot to load 'em.

So there's no difference in Ownership or Permissions that might affect  
Startup loading, if I install drivers in a Safe Boot versus  
"Administrative User" Mode? Maybe not OS X 10.5 - wise, but if the 3rd  
party Installer isn't written quite right ... could a difference be  
made?

The reason I'm asking ... Their Installer was written to comply with  
10.4.11 ... it didn't change when 10.5 came out. They're Un-installer  
doesn't work under 10.5 ... although it works under 10.4.
>
>
>> Stumped again ... this involves a new replacement PCI audio card
>> installed in my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, OS X 10.5.6, 1.5GB SDRAM.
>>
>> Same Old Problem .... New PCI Audio card.
>>
>> I'm having trouble with its drivers loading sometimes, and other
>> times not ... seems to be having problems "around" "Login Window".
>>
>> I use auto Login on Startup and Restarts. Cold Boot sometimes gives
>> me a Blue Screen, Restarts sometimes fixes things.
>
> hum.  Hit the CUDA, to restart the power manager after you install
> the card.  Use AppleJack to clear the kernel caches and rebuild them.

I did a Safe Boot thinking that replenished caches. But I will try the  
CUDA again, and Applejack.
>
>
> Get rid of auto-login.  Having things STOP and display that login
> screen tells you if it got that far properly.  Then you can see how
> things go from there.
>
> Loading sometimes... Does it seem to load more often on a warm
> restart or a cold boot (from power off).  I'm thinking maybe the card
> isn't coming to life and responding to the driver's initial probe
> fast enough.

More so in a warm, Restart.

Funny ... earlier today ... they didn't load on Cold Boot ... but did  
so later in the same session ... have 2 Apple System Profiler's to  
prove it.
>
>
>> Apologies for being vague ... particulars can be found on M-Audio's
>> site Forum (if you're really interested):
>> http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=3856
>
> Off to read that.

It's the "Plus" file in the M-Audio Forum (go to page 5 ....). Sorry  
for it being in pdf ... they won't allow spx, although I can trick  
their system by calling it a pdf file ... except it has to be less  
than 1MB.

Thanks for your help.

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