At 12:34 PM -0400 3/18/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: >On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 12:13 AM -0400 3/18/2009, insightinmind wrote: >>> Is it possible to install 3rd party drivers during a Safe Boot? > > yes. > >> If so, is it better? > > No. > > Slap the files in and you still have to reboot to load 'em. > >So there's no difference in Ownership or Permissions that might affect >Startup loading, if I install drivers in a Safe Boot versus >"Administrative User" Mode? Maybe not OS X 10.5 - wise, but if the 3rd >party Installer isn't written quite right ... could a difference be >made?
No. If the files are being put there by an installer with bad permissions, then it won't matter how you're booted - the installer is foo. You can just change the permissions manually. WRT kernel extensions it really should be moot - they're loaded under root, which ignores permissions anyway. The driver package you're installing... how big is it? is it available for public download? >The reason I'm asking ... Their Installer was written to comply with >10.4.11 ... it didn't change when 10.5 came out. They're Un-installer >doesn't work under 10.5 ... although it works under 10.4. yea, I saw that in your forum thread. Doubt that's the problem tho. > >> Stumped again ... this involves a new replacement PCI audio card >>> installed in my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, OS X 10.5.6, 1.5GB SDRAM. >>> >>> Same Old Problem .... New PCI Audio card. >>> >>> I'm having trouble with its drivers loading sometimes, and other >>> times not ... seems to be having problems "around" "Login Window". >>> >>> I use auto Login on Startup and Restarts. Cold Boot sometimes gives > >> me a Blue Screen, Restarts sometimes fixes things. > > > > hum. Hit the CUDA, to restart the power manager after you install > > the card. Use AppleJack to clear the kernel caches and rebuild them. > >I did a Safe Boot thinking that replenished caches. It does. >But I will try the CUDA again, and Applejack. I'm just thinking maybe there's something the power manager needs to see. Hitting the CUDA reboots it, making it go back thru its autoconfigure sequence. > > Get rid of auto-login. Having things STOP and display that login >> screen tells you if it got that far properly. Then you can see how >> things go from there. >> >> Loading sometimes... Does it seem to load more often on a warm >> restart or a cold boot (from power off). I'm thinking maybe the card >> isn't coming to life and responding to the driver's initial probe >> fast enough. > >More so in a warm, Restart. > >Funny ... earlier today ... they didn't load on Cold Boot ... but did >so later in the same session ... have 2 Apple System Profiler's to >prove it. Starting to smell like a timing issue; maybe the driver is poking at the card, before it's ready, then not sticking around for the response. What else do you have in that PCI bus? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
