On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Clark Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 5/13/10 1:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> What could have changed?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than
>>> before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an
>>> external USB hub with its own power supply. I've seen this message
>>> before using a USB memory stick to a keyboard port. Since the USB
>>> memory stick doesn't draw significant power, this might be an error
>>> specific to keyboard ports that you can safely ignore, at least
>>> that's what I did.
>>>
>>
>> Also the Mac keyboard ports are lower power than normal, because
>> they're an unpowered hub. I've seen some older USB flash drives
>> produce that warning.
>>
>>
> There is a maximum of 500mA available from a powered port (on the computer
> or a powered hub).  Each device is allocated a minimum of 100mA.  The hub
> inside the keyboard, the keyboard itself, the mouse and the camera are
> likely each requesting the minimum of 100mA so that's a total of 400 mA
> allocated.  That leaves 100mA still available so this problem SHOULDN'T be
> happening.  If the keyboard is plugged into an unpowered hub you could get
> this problem.
>
> USB is in many ways a well thought out specifications but the
> implementation frequently falls short.
>
>
> I have seen some USB devices that request 500mA regardless of what they
> need.  I suspect the programmers were just being lazy.
>
> OK, here is what Apple System Profiler says
The Second USB Hub is powered off a power cord while the first is powered by
the USB Bus

*USB Bus:*


  Host Controller Location: Built In USB

  Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI

  PCI Device ID: 0x0019

  PCI Revision ID: 0x0001

  PCI Vendor ID: 0x106b

  Bus Number: 0x18


*Hub in Apple USB Keyboard:*


  Version: 2.10

  Bus Power (mA): 500

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer: Alps Electric

  Product ID: 0x1001

  Vendor ID: 0x05ac  (Apple Computer, Inc.)


*USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse:*


  Version: 27.20

  Bus Power (mA): 100

  Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer: Logitech

  Product ID: 0xc044

  Vendor ID: 0x046d


*Apple USB Keyboard:*


  Version: 1.02

  Bus Power (mA): 250

  Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer: Alps Electric

  Product ID: 0x0201

  Vendor ID: 0x05ac  (Apple Computer, Inc.)



*USB Bus:*


  Host Controller Location: Built In USB

  Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI

  PCI Device ID: 0x0019

  PCI Revision ID: 0x0001

  PCI Vendor ID: 0x106b

  Bus Number: 0x19


*Hub:*


  Version: 1.00

  Bus Power (mA): 500

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Product ID: 0x0003

  Vendor ID: 0x050f


*DataTraveler2.0:*


  Capacity: 1.86 GB

  Removable Media: Yes

  Detachable Drive: Yes

  BSD Name: disk8

  Version: 1.00

  Bus Power (mA): 100

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer: Kingston

  OS9 Drivers: No

  Product ID: 0x160b

  Serial Number: 0809251010162

  S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported

  Vendor ID: 0x0951

  Volumes:

*KINGSTON1:*

  Capacity: 1.86 GB

  Available: 1.72 GB

  Writable: Yes

  File System: MS-DOS FAT16

  BSD Name: disk8s1

  Mount Point: /Volumes/KINGSTON1


*JUMPDRIVE SECURE:*


  Capacity: 247.5 MB

  Removable Media: Yes

  Detachable Drive: Yes

  BSD Name: disk4

  Version: 30.00

  Bus Power (mA): 100

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer: LEXAR MEDIA

  OS9 Drivers: No

  Product ID: 0xa431

  Serial Number: 00027D02083755180706

  S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported

  Vendor ID: 0x05dc

  Volumes:

*Secure II:*

  Capacity: 247.48 MB

  Available: 16.64 MB

  Writable: Yes

  File System: MS-DOS FAT16

  BSD Name: disk4s1

  Mount Point: /Volumes/Secure II


*Flash Disk:*


  Capacity: 123.62 MB

  Removable Media: Yes

  Detachable Drive: Yes

  BSD Name: disk3

  Version: 1.00

  Bus Power (mA): 100

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer:

  OS9 Drivers: No

  Product ID: 0x6025

  Serial Number: 124757267656

  S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported

  Vendor ID: 0x0204

  Volumes:

*CENTRUM:*

  Capacity: 123.61 MB

  Writable: Yes

  File System: MS-DOS FAT16

  BSD Name: disk3s1

  Mount Point: /Volumes/CENTRUM


*Hub:*


  Version: 1.00

  Bus Power (mA): 100

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Product ID: 0x005a

  Vendor ID: 0x0409


*USB Device:*


  Capacity: 1.84 GB

  Removable Media: Yes

  Detachable Drive: Yes

  BSD Name: disk9

  Version: 0.10

  Bus Power (mA): 500

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  OS9 Drivers: No

  Product ID: 0x915d

  Serial Number: USB Device

  S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported

  Vendor ID: 0x2770

  Volumes:

*NO NAME:*

  Capacity: 1.84 GB

  Available: 1.75 GB

  Writable: Yes

  File System: MS-DOS FAT16

  BSD Name: disk9s1

  Mount Point: /Volumes/NO NAME


*DataTraveler 2.0:*


  Capacity: 1.89 GB

  Removable Media: Yes

  Detachable Drive: Yes

  BSD Name: disk5

  Version: 1.00

  Bus Power (mA): 500

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer: Kingston

  OS9 Drivers: No

  Product ID: 0x6545

  Serial Number: 001D0F0CAAD35B89050E035B

  S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported

  Vendor ID: 0x0930

  Volumes:

*KINGSTON:*

  Capacity: 1.89 GB

  Available: 1.08 GB

  Writable: Yes

  File System: MS-DOS FAT16

  BSD Name: disk5s1

  Mount Point: /Volumes/KINGSTON


*TD Classic 003C:*


  Capacity: 492 MB

  Removable Media: Yes

  Detachable Drive: Yes

  BSD Name: disk6

  Version: 1.00

  Bus Power (mA): 500

  Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec

  Manufacturer: Memorex

  OS9 Drivers: No

  Product ID: 0x0008

  Serial Number: 0EE02C510242B8CD

  S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported

  Vendor ID: 0x08ec

  Volumes:

*TRAVELDRIVE:*

  Capacity: 491.98 MB

  Available: 428.88 MB

  Writable: Yes

  File System: MS-DOS FAT16

  BSD Name: disk6s1

  Mount Point: /Volumes/TRAVELDRIVE



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