On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:55 PM, glen wrote:





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From: James Therrault <[email protected]>


Heh... You're only a kid by my standards. Sometimes off topic, (officially), still can share knowledge or at the least some general information. I learn a lot of this list. I spent about thirty years in and out of the publishing biz in addition to process, (manufacturing), engineering, shipbuilding, aircraft structures, cinematography/film editing, a little stint in the army and even a year of technical support at Apple back in the 68xxx days just at the transition to the Power PC. Now, I'm a master slacker who is seldom up before
9am...

Ahh, yes my goal at this time is to retire from my 35 year old printing and graphic arts business and become a 9 AM wake-up guy. My hat is off to you!

Yep, my experience in DTP began right around 1985 with the advent of the Mac Plus in the graphic arts department of a printing company owned by three weekly newspapers using PageMaker 1.0. I quit a couple of years later to go on my own and bought a Mac II, Laser printer NT, PageMaker 2.0 etc for about $8K. By 1989, I was using PageMaker 3.0 which had autoflow, graphics wrap and boy that was the cat's meow! Still had a waxer for ultimate paste up plus photographs were still a task of the printer, (pre-press).

I still have the last version of PageMaker installed on the Classic partition of my Gigabit and crank it up on occasion.


My credentials are not the same as yours but I do have a BSE in Aerospace and worked in a shipyard building submarines, also did some Newsreel film work while
in my 20's.

Built 688 and 726 class submarine components, (structural), at Quonset Point RI in the late 1970's/very early 1980's. Ironically, the printshop mentioned above was located just outside of the shipyard... Love that HY-80, HY-100!

Was a color printing tech in the photolab on Kwajalein in the late 1960's for an eighteen month contract. Filmed a documentary in Micronesia in 1969/70 with extensive underwater coverage. Returned to Kwajalein for several years as the senior cinematographer/film editor for documentary services. (ABM R&D)

My education is a Heinz 57 BS in Industrial Technology with minors in labor law and meteorology.


Your are right about the Zapf Chancery craze, sorta like the Souvenir typeface (AKA fonts) obsession of the 1970-80's. Souvenir predated but became but became
a part of the DTP revolution of fonts with the early Mac's.

You can always spot the amateur work. Instead of using readable fonts for main text you'd be surprise what they would use. Give you vertigo at times! Widows, orphans etc, etc, etc...


Just a little history or fonts from my experience. To keep this on topic I guess you can receive emails in Zapf or Souvenir if you really want to. ;-) --glen

Naw... Courier is fine with me even though a sans serif font like Helvetica might be easier on the eyes.

As an aside, back in the early days, the LaserWriters came with IIRC eight PostScript fonts which generally covered most DTP requirements. The closest to a display font was Zaph Chancery (always abused). Thankfully, a lot of freelancers were creating PostScript compatible fonts especially display which was a godsend when considering the extortion prices Adobe was getting. In fact a friend created a whole set of fonts with Fontographer back in the mid 1980's for a DTP application for the Amiga 1000.

JT



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