I like my G5 tower more than my computer lab's Mac Minis. It is faster, has
more RAM and hard disk space, runs PPC apps natively, resulting in huge
speed boosts, is more servicable, can use VGA and ADC monitors natively with
the right video card(s), more reliable, uses slightly more standard and less
expensive parts, runs cooler, and is more expandable than a brand new Mac
Mini. Care to look at a direct comparison?

Quad PMac G5
2500MHz Quad G5 with 4 additional AltiVec processors
Most will have 4-8GB of RAM (mine has 8), and 8 1GB DDR memory sticks off of
LEM swap list should be under $100 even if its not included
Most have at least 500GB of HDD space (mine has 2x500GB), and 2TB drives
cost $100 even if its not included
$600ish (Mine was $300 INCLUDING monitor)

VS
Dual Core Intel Mac Mini
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo (slower)
2GB of RAM (less)
320GB HDD (less)
$699

OK, so no one really gets the base model. Let's configure one to have the
specs of a G5 Quad (or as close as we can get).

Dual Core Intel Mac Mini (high end)
2.66GHz Core 2 Duo (still slower)
8GB of RAM
500GB HDD
$1449

Oh, well if you want that much computer, just get a Mac Pro.

Base model Mac Pro
2.8GHz glorified Core i7 (only 25-30% faster than the G5's CPU)
3GB of RAM (STILL LESS!)
1TB HDD
$2499
With 8GB of RAM it's $2874.

Hmm... Which seems like a better deal to me?
Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
architecture.


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Dan Palka <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>  On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Kris Tilford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Dan Palka wrote:
>>
>> it really is time to move on. Snow Leopard on an Intel Mac is an amazing,
>>> highly-refined, ultra-powerful combination. I wouldn't downgrade for
>>> anything.
>>>
>>
>> Great, I think we all know this already, but most either already own PPC
>> Macs or can't afford a new Intel Mac. The name of this list is G3-5 list,
>> it's specifically for PPC Macs. Perhaps you should be moving on to one of
>> the Intel lists?
>
>
> Or I can stay here and give the best and most appropriate advice where
> necessary. G-Macs are great fun and all, and I probably own more of them
> than most people on this list, but when someone says they are "refusing" for
> whatever reason to upgrade to Snow Leopard and/or Intel Macs, there is
> clearly some misconception going there that needs to be cleared up.
>
> Early 2006 Intel Mac prices are free-falling. Someone here is talking about
> buying G5s and all kinds of nonsense just for the sake of Classic. I say
> don't waste your money.
>
>
>>  I cannot emphasize how urgent and beneficial it is for you to jump into
>>> Intel and Snow Leopard, and the modern world of Mac applications.
>>>
>>
>> I agree with your premise that OS X applications can normally replace
>> Classic applications, and that using MacOS is probably not the best idea
>> these days. However, I disagree with the idea that Snow Leopard offers any
>> substantial improvements over Leopard, after all, the ONLY thing Snow
>> Leopard is doing is converting Leopard from 32-bit Universal Intel/PPC code
>> over to 64-bit Intel-only code. The idea of paying Apple $29 to clean-up and
>> purge their deadwood code seems a little far fetched to me. Leopard 10.5.8
>> works perfectly for almost all applications, Intel or PPC. Snow Leopard
>> offers few improvements, and many minor growing headaches.
>>
>
> OK, fine. Time to upgrade from Mac OS 9 to Leopard if you need to nit-pick
> about your pennies that much. There is no reason for anyone to purposely
> refuse to upgrade to (Snow) Leopard which is what sounds like the OP was
> doing.
>
>
>> As I said above, if you believe "how urgent and beneficial it is for you
>> to jump into Intel and Snow Leopard" then you should also jump into one of
>> the Intel lists, and leave G3-5 list to us who still find value in G3-5 PPC
>> Macs.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Eric Herbert wrote:
>>
>> Upgrading to Snow Leopard on an Intel Mini is a MASSIVE leap forward.  Not
>>> only is it a lot more stable and polished, but it's MUCH faster than Tiger
>>> on the Intels.  Join us in the 21st century and make your life a little
>>> easier!
>>>
>>
>>
>> Comparing Snow Leopard on an Intel Mac to Tiger on a PPC Mac isn't a fair
>> comparison. The cost factor is just as MASSIVE as the performance increase,
>> perhaps larger? The "sweet spot" of price/performance ratio is still within
>> the PPC Mac range unless you're using a hackintosh.
>>
>> To reiterate, this list is for G3-5 PPC Macs.
>
>
> It most certainly is not. As I pointed out, early Intels are reaching new
> lows every month. You can spend $500 - $700 on a G5 that's been officially
> obsoleted by Apple for a year now, or you can spend the same money and get a
> decent Mac Mini that will run all the current software and be useful longer.
>
> It doesn't matter what list your on. The best advice applies everywhere.
>
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