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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Dan Palka <[email protected]> wrote: > On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: > > > I like my G5 tower more than my computer lab's Mac Minis. > > > That exact G5 is far slower than even the base-model Mac Mini of today in > Geekbench scores, and you're not even considering that only with Snow > Leopard has 64-bit software been brought to the end-user in a very big way, > which will never happen on a G5. Ever. > So, all of the G5-optimized 64-bit code was never used? I sure do use it. > > Only if you're specifically running multi-core, memory-intensive old > PowerPC-native versions of apps would you see a G5 win in performance > standpoint. And if I'm not running multi-core, memory-intensive apps, what am I doing? Well, browsing the web and listening to music, and other simple tasks, for which both are adequate. > It should generally be much faster to run CS5 on a Mac Mini than CS4 on > your G5 for example. Except for the fact that CS5 does not support most of the plugins that I and many others use and that there are simply no equivalent ones avail. > Ditto for just about anything else. And this is the Mac Mini we're talking > about -- we're not even in the same ballpark if we start talking about iMacs > or Mac Pros. I don't know what exactly you mean by "more standards." At the > very best, the G5 uses cutting-edge standards of 2004 or 2005. Mac Minis are > perfectly standards-compliant today. Right now. > Well, I'd like to see what kinds of standards-compliant disk drives and CPU sockets are in the Mac Minis. I am talking about the other machines because they are the ONLY Intel machines that can equal the memory and storage capacities of the G5. I am looking into upgrading (for less than $200) to dual 2TB disk drives for my G5. What kind of Mac Mini can fit 4TB of hard disks? Yes, I (and many others) would USE all 4,0000GB of that space, more than EIGHT TIMES the storage capacity of the Mac Mini -- the topend model. > > The fact of the matter is Apple and the industry rejected PowerPC years > ago. It's not going to be much longer before you won't even be able to use > current versions of basic necessities like Safari on your G5. Are you still > going to cling to PowerPC then? > Yes, many makers rejected such architectures as SPARC. However, using SPARC as an example, if I may, I can run all sorts of open-source applications in SPARC boxes, including CURRENT versions of Firefox, Konqueror, KDE, and many other apps. And all this for an archetecture older and less proliferated than PowerPC. I can't see it going away anytime soon. > > We are here to help each other out, as owners of PowerPC systems that > continue to use them for whatever purposes that we do. I have G4s and even > 603s running in my house still currently. However, we should not kid > ourselves, or others who seek our advice, by seriously recommending new > purchases of PowerPC equipment for any reason other than a hobbyist pursuit, > as if to ignore the state of the Macintosh platform and the assured EOL that > approaches these systems faster every day. > And the assured EOL that approaches every new Intel Mac, as well as EVERY COMPUTER EVER MADE! I can't use an IBM PC for the same work as my Core 2 Quad tower, even though they are both Intel-powered machines. Just saying "it won't be supported someday" could be an argument for the aforementioned every computer ever made. > > PowerPC. PageMill. AppleWorks. Mac OS Classic. We've pushed these > technologies farther than their own engineers ever imagined they could > possibly go. The end really is near. Some of us old timers who so vigorously > advocated and evangelized "the way" have long ago come to terms with and > accepted the inevitable. I'm disappointed that so many still seem unable or > unwilling to leave the past behind. > I am not unwilling to leave the point behind. In fact, if all of you must know, I am not as old as most of you would think. Here's a hint: I was born after the Mac II was released. Five years after it was released. The first computer I every bought with my own money was a G3 B&W used. We are not all old cooks who don't want to buy a new computer. I just recently bought a PC tower, but still use my Mac, and actually like it more. > > It really is better on the Intel side of the fence. Some day soon you will > see that. > No response. > > </rant> > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
