> The problem here, of course, is that you need to:
> 
> Be able to teach technical stuff to non-technical people.
> Be deeply knowledgeable about BOTH platforms.


Done and done. I've already converted several people at DMACC... by showing 
them my Pismo PowerBook and my PowerBook 180 ^_^

Austin Leeds
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On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Bruce Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
> 
>> Am I the only one realizing that your "new Winbox for $300-$400 running Win7
>> with modern multi-core cpus", will be running like crap after a few months?
> 
> Uhh, yes, because, no they don't run like crap after a few months. I use them 
> daily. I help oversee an installed base of several hundred...there are 
> issues, yes, people get fake antiviruses, yes, you have to be more proactive 
> with antivirus and antimalware solutions yes, you have to avoid Norton's like 
> the gorram plague, yes (but you have to do that on Macs, too). 
> 
>> Whereas your mac, no matter how old, will be running great. For the average
>> computer user, they don't NEED a new PC, and the old Mac will work out
>> better for them in the long run.
> 
> 
> Go to Youtube, play a random video. Go to Hulu, find out 'OOpsie, they don't 
> work'. Go to Netflix (which accounts for something like 70% of all net 
> traffic in the US in the evenings) and you find Oops, it doesn't work with 
> non-intel Macs.
> 
> No, the average user will NOT be served by an old G4 Mac over a modern 
> windows system. A modern Mac system beats Win7 all hollow (which is one 
> reason why Apple's selling the things like hotcakes), but not an old G4.
> 
> Your mom's eMachine didn't need to be replaced, it needed to be cleaned up. 
> I'll wager there were eleventy-seven little icons in her task bar (remember 
> the system extension dance in OS 9??? Same thing) and her web browser likely 
> has eight toolbars installed by other random setups, but you know what? NONE 
> of this is actually *WIndows* fault, but the fault of lazy third-parties.
> 
> (And big names like ^#%@$ Adobe are the worst...they automagically install 
> crap when you update entirely unrelated shit like the Yahoo Toolbar and some 
> notrons or mcaffee crap that doesn't actually do anything.)
> 
> Once you teach folks how to notice the little checkboxes to uncheck in 
> installs, and teach them a little awareness of avoiding problems on the Web 
> (and I've managed to do this with some seriously non-techie people) they get 
> along pretty well.
> 
> Great Dog in the sky, I can NOT believe I'm actually defending Windows here, 
> but frankly people have to accept (especially if they're selling these system 
> to naive people who expect them to 'just work') that G4 systems and PPC Macs 
> in general are obsolete, and given a choice of running OS X on an obsolete 
> system and Windows on a newer one, people are better served by the Windows 
> solution. 
> 
> People get new computers eventually, and if their experience with the Mac is: 
> "Well, I never had viruses, but a whole bunch of stuff didn't work well, and 
> <this program> and <that program> weren't available. I'm not getting a new 
> Mac!" You're not doing the world a favor.
> 
> Yes, you have to spend more time working ON your computer with Windows, but 
> look through the archives of the list: How many times has someone come in and 
> complained about 'I can't play youtube videos on my G4!'
> 
> If you want to make money converting folks to the Mac, offer your services as 
> a 'Mac Switcher consultant'. Help them move their stuff from their old pc's 
> to the new Mac. Show them how to set up Google Mail in Mail. 
> 
> Show them how to use the new mac; teach them where to find the things they 
> knew how to do in Windows. Teach them useful tricks (like what Keychain 
> Access is good for: looking up stored passwords, securely saving lists of 
> online passwords, credit card numbers and the like in Keychain Notes), 
> 
> Help them find equivalents for programs they used under Windows that aren't 
> there for the Mac. 
> 
> Because THEN you've created a Mac convert, and they'll tell their friends and 
> relatives, and you're the one that helped.
> 
> (Quick what's the best, easiest cheapest replacement for MS Paint, which 
> comes for free with every Windows system and is the graphics program used by 
> 90% of all Windows users. 
> 
> Hint: Graphics Converter ain't it. Paintbrush is MUCH closer 
> <http://paintbrush.sourceforge.net/>, as I've been assured by the several 
> ex-Windows people who have asked me for that solution...)
> 
> The problem here, of course, is that you need to:
> 
> Be able to teach technical stuff to non-technical people.
> Be deeply knowledgeable about BOTH platforms.
> 
> -- 
> Bruce Johnson
> 
> "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai,  PhD
> 
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