arie.
This is a reall pain in the rear.
I to did for a while try to persue this.
You can find dos images on something like demonoid.com or torrentspy.com.
You will need something like winimage and or rawwrite.
You can find a version of winimage on the sites I mentioned to.
This aint all lagit though.
I got my dos disks through someone that didn't want them.
Ok, despite legality of it you can get dos from torrent sites and the 
software that will load the images to floppy disks.
www.ifarchive.org, www.zlat.org are sites for games.
Thats out the way.
I have had the same as you.
Problem.
There are about 4 problems.
The first one is that on systems over a 386 margin, games that use 
the bigger agt system like cosmoserve will not work.
And other agt games will not work unless you have tpatch to fix these.
Cosmoserve will not work with that tpatch program.
Tpatch is in the executables of the agt which is in the programming 
directory of ifarchive.org.
That aint the least of your problems.
Unless your screenreader can support anything over 386 systems you 
may find it in the case of mastertouch keynote keysoft, etc will not 
run what ever you do.
Another thing is if you do not have the external synth to drive the 
reader, forget it.
Secondly depending on what dos version you use, I personally like dos 
6.22 which will not install on some older systems that only have dos 3 on them.
anyway it has the most features.
Anyway if you put the opensource dos 7.10 on it you will get a basic 
dos with few utilities.
You will get fat 32 support meaning that only 32gb of a hard disk 
will bee seen.
However earlier fuller versions of dos will only allow for fat 16 2gb support.
In a way your best thing is to run an earlier version of windows.
However depending on how all the ports that windows grabbs things may 
just not work even in dos mode.
I have an old keynote gold 1850 toshiba 386.
If you can get a 386 machine, and llow for space, and it actually 
excepts your dos 6.22 disks and works, i can't, the one i got never 
did and I don't have the space.
I gave up after a year, that is after spending over 1000 on ebay for 
computers and being dissapointed and having untold junk.
I also have a dectalk express which has something really wrong with it.
Now if I could get a computer to make it out it was a 386 and looked 
like dos but wasn't that would be good.
However unless vertual pcs are more accessible and even then who 
knows if it will work.
I did try winfrots tts but I never got it to save and restore right.
I think old dos games for us are dead.
I'd really like to sink my teath into them but I am unable to.
At 07:23 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback
>on a suggestion.
>First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures.
>When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like
>Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window
>Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to
>Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window
>Bridge would start reading it to you.
>Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this
>makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important
>part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that
>with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find,
>etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers:
>1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based
>text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games
>that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old
>Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos.
>What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard
>drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal
>Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS
>from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some
>kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm
>familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and
>run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not
>installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos
>box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or
>98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy.
>The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which
>have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard
>drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games
>as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to
>the site as a sort of huge library.
>My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm
>suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other
>people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this:
>Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely
>downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the
>link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without
>using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put
>our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on
>this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will
>be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and
>time zones are also a problem.
>Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still
>available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them.
>You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me
>re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like
>Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork,
>it's cool!
>Ari
>
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