Well I'd like to test the express version, I doubt I will buy an xbox or get the pro version, for now but I'd Like to test this stuff. At 04:05 p.m. 17/08/2006, you wrote: >Of course we'd need sighted help with that part, but I have a valid >point, at least my own experience would suggest so. Sighted gamers >tend to lose interest in audio games because of the fact that they >tend to have few if any graphics. I know it would be impossible to >do the graphical part ourselves and it would be time-consuming to >get sighted help (and probably expensive as well), but everything's >graphics these days. This XNA studio thing does have some potential. >We just don't know how much yet. > > > >It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. > > > > > >>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]> >>To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Article about New Program for Creating XBox 360 Games >>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:31:48 +1200 >> >>but how would we be able to do graphics, surely this would cost us >>more unless someone did graphics before the games were put on the market. >>ANd then, hello, no resources for audio at all, just graphics. >>I've not seen many hybrid games on pc working nicely though. >>At 03:47 a.m. 16/08/2006, you wrote: >> >Also, having graphics in the games would encourage sighted gamers to >> >try them more. As things stand now, sighted people tend to lose >> >interest in audio games because there are no graphics or, even if >> >there are some, they're not what you call eye candy. This system, if >> >a way can be found to make it accessible, could make it possible to >> >create games that sighted and blind players can play together >> >without one necessarily having any advantage over the other. >> > >> > >> > >> >It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>From: Thomas Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]> >> >>To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]> >> >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Article about New Program for Creating >> XBox 360 Games >> >>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:29:25 -0400 >> >> >> >>Hi Shaun, >> >>It is a little early to really be going down this road yet. They offer a >> >>Windows version for free which allows users to try out xna studios for >> >>free and no apparent licensing issues attached to it. >> >>That will allow for evaluation and to experiment weather or not certain >> >>games are possible with it. >> >>There is a $99 per year fee attached to the Xbox version, but it may be >> >>our key to getting on to a platform and sell console games. I would love >> >>being able to say play something like Aliens in the Outback on an Xbox. >> >>That would be cool. >> >> >> >> >> >>shaun everiss wrote: >> >> > read my msg I posted to the list today. >> >> > I don't like the fact ms is taking or going to take a cut of the >> >> > proffits and control sales because well I've never seen an >> >> > accessible ms game yet and I have never seen an ms software that >> >> > hasn't needed to be full of graphics, have no security holes or >> >> activation. >> >> > Its not worth it if we blindies would have to spend more cash on >> >> > getting graphics, and systems to stop others hacking into our systems >> >> > because of microsoft in what will essentually be ms owned and >> >> controled games. >> >> > In short it makes me feel very uncomfortable. >> >> > And would it even make an improvement, and how much is the ms cut? >> >> > Probably 99% of all sales, we will get nothing because we are blind >> >> > and so will all the other poor sods who try this. >> >> > Sorry to be so pesimistic but every os and other app from ms seems to >> >> > be full of activation and security updates. >> >> > Do we even want to go down this road. >> >> > This really doesn't sit well. >> >> > Anyway would the tools even be accessible. >> >> > There are a load of game creation toolkits around, one of which is >> >> > the audiogame engine by enspired code. >> >> > Which I havn't seen much of. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Gamers mailing list .. 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