ya know? i really, really, really admire them people that can understand
languages like c. visual basic and autoit are, what, 3 lines, if that, to
write a simple hello world program. in c it's 85 lines, half of which i
don't have a clue what they all mean, such as:

HINSTANCE hInstance,
  HINSTANCE hPrevInstance,
  LPSTR lpCmdLine,
    int nShowCmd

that hardly makes sense at all to me. those aren't even the start headers. i
can make out little bits, like CMDLine is for command line parameters, etc,
but most of it is half another language altogether, whereas
#include <GUIConstants.au3>
GUICreate("Hello World!")
GUISetState()
is a lot easier to understand. that's why i started with autoit. maybe i'm
just far too impatient *grin*

regards,

damien





----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic


> Hi Liam,
> No change isn't always bad, and in this case I feel it was about to
> happen sooner or later. As I understand it from what I have heard from
> Microsoft on the subject was that many VB programmers in the field
> bombarded MS with requests to update the language and include more
> features present in more powerful languages such as C++ and Java. These
> days it is unreasonable to not have a good oop design present in a
> programming language. Especially, seeing as all the really popular
> languages like C++, Java, Python, etc have a good oop design and are
> more popular than non-oop languages.
> Strictly speaking from my personal opinion and experiences when I was a
> student in college they started us out on VB 5. Oh, I was happy as a
> clam to be able to write something constructive, Mr. Programmer, and
> all. However, as time went on I got in to more complex languages like
> C++ and Java, and with them came more complex advanced concepts, new
> design conventions, and so on. Once I learned, grasped, and understood
> the advantages of what C++ and Java had to offer VB 5 seamed like a
> joke, or a toy language for kids.
> I mean I was really impressed with a simple subject like class
> inheritence. How you could start out with a master class let's say
> starship, put all your major variables and functions in there, and then
> begin branching out, and create more and more specialised classes which
> inherit the more generalised classes.  With the creation of one instance
> of an object you have access to not only the specialised class you have
> access to variables and functions to everything that specialised class
> was derived from. Even cooler you wrote the variables and functions
> once, but everytime you create an instance of an object which points to
> that class those variables are duplicated in memory for the specific use
> of that object without having to write them over again for that item,
> object, character, you are storing data for.
> I guess to sum it up I learned oop design, and I couldn't live without
> it. I found languages without oop design to be backward, outdated, and
> really the hard way of doing things.
> Liam Erven wrote:
> > Jim.  It's much much different.  There's many major differences than in
vb6.
> > I was surprised to find out you could program in vb6 like you would in
an
> > older form of basic, but the whole system is much much different now.
> > Change isn't always bad.  I'm really enjoying this new version quite a
lot.
> >
>
>
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