Ok, reminds that it was either jaws 11, or jaws 12 that specifically needed
to be used with windows7 to make it really viable as well - biggest issue
there was that jaws would keep on seeing that you'd changed hardware, when
you hadn't...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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From: "Ken The PionEar" <kenwdow...@me.com>
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Vista and 7: was Re: challenge
fordevelopers, post xp windows
Well, as I said, I'm not fully knowlegeable on the OS, and there might be
things I'm just not getting. Also, I'm using JFW 11, and I can neither
afford nor am I willing to go for an upgrade.
My son's computer, which has Windows 7, uses NVDA.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <ja...@blindza.co.za>
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Vista and 7: was Re: challenge
fordevelopers, post xp windows
Will just say, funny enough, a while ago had a relatively decent spec
dell laptop that was initially running windows XP on, but when then
upgraded it to windows7, it firstly booted up in around half the time,
but, also actually responded better under windows7 - hardware
compatibility?
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken The PionEar" <kenwdow...@me.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:57 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Vista and 7: was Re: challenge for
developers, post xp windows
I definitely don't have look and feel issues when it comes to Windows 7,
since I like trying new things. It's purely an issue of response time for
me. If I hit a key and it takes a brand spankin' new computer a quarter
of a second for Jaws to respond, there is an issue. That same computer
just a few months down the road is even worse. I've worked with both my
wife's laptop and my son's desktop, both using windows 7, and I'm not
impressed. I used to have Vista on my desktop, and other than a lot of
buggy behavior it wasn't too bad, but it wasn't like XP. I didn't feel it
was stable or responsive. One of its best features was its accessible
games. I enjoyed playing Purble Place with my son.
Also, I can admit to some ignorance of how to optimize it for speed. I'm
sure all the fancy animations and graphics were on, for example.
I can't say one way or another as regards to Windows 8 except that i'm
itching to try it just to see what it's like.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on
Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .
Crazy Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] challenge for developers, post xp windows
Hi Dallas,
Agreed. It is sort of amusing because as you said Microsoft has stuck
with the XP look and feel for so long that users forgot what it was
like to go from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 or from Windows 98 to XP.
Both offered major changes in the user interface and I don't remember
people screaming quite as loudly or as fanatically as they are over
Windows 7 and Windows8.
However, what I think they need is a point of comparison. As you
pointed out is that other operating systems haven't stood still or
been quite as static as Windows has been for the last ten or so years.
The Linux graphical desktop environments like Gnome have constantly
been updating and evolving little by little until we have something
completely different from what we had ten ore more years ago. Today
Gnome 3.8 is as different from Gnome 2.8 as Windows 8 is from XP, but
that change was gradual rather than over night. There was some
grumbling on the Orca list when Gnome whent from Gnome 2.32 to 3.0,
but those were mainly over access issues rather than the UI changes.
This might sound a bit harsh,but I think Windows users are a bit
spoiled by the fact Microsoft chose to keep their user interface as
long as they have. Apple, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, and pretty much
anybody who is anyone has been changing their user interfaces from
version to version and Microsoft just chose to hit their customers all
at once rather than ease them into it the way other software companies
have.
On 5/1/13, Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's kind of ironic. Apple in a lot of ways, invented what we now know
as
windows. Microsoft actually use the ideas that apple used originally.
Mind
you, Apple didn't invent it either really. They technically got it
from
Xerox. LOL. So blame Xerox.
The interesting thing about this, is that people are complaining about
how
different windows 8 is to Windows 7 and earlier. Because Microsoft
didn't
change very much in Windows for so long, So the change now has come
as
somewhat of a shock to some people. Especially those that have been
using
windows for some time.
Of course, Apple has been changing continually, over a long period of
time,
making small changes here and there, so as not to make it such a
jarring
experience. Microsoft has made the mistake, of waiting too long before
making a change to windows in a major way. Whereas Apple has done it
slowly
over about 10 years.
It's kind of amusing, to hear people talking about 32-bit and 64-bit
Windows, and what software can run on one and what can't run on the
other.
Because, quite simply, Apple made the choice to go permanently 64-bit.
Because of this, they don't tend to have this kind of problem. About
the
only thing that doesn't run now, Would be older apps designed for the
old
processes. So Apple have in fact made the jump to 64-bit completely,
whereas
windows is still again, a kind of half way measure, where you can do
both.
It would be so much simpler, if Microsoft would do the same. Make
everything
64-bit, if you want support for anything else, you will have to use
emulators, or an old computer.
And in fact, from all the information we have got now, the next major
version of windows, is going to do Exactly that. There will be no
32-bit
version. And it's about time. LOL. All of our computers that we have
bought
for the last six years or more, minus the netbooks, are 64-bit
capable. So
there is no reason to hold back, and keep using 32-bit versions of
windows.
Of course, this was done for compatibility, with older programs.
But what is being said now, is 99% of everything that is out there
now, is
either a 32-bit program, or a 64-bit program. There is little reason
to stay
in a 32-bit operating system from here on in.
Regards:
Dallas
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