I aggree with both points.
At 12:35 PM 6/24/2013, you wrote:
Sometimes things come up. Developers are in no
way obligated to discuss their personal lives on
list. I agree it isn't right but nor is it right
to constantly harp on what few developers we
have. People keep that sort of behavior up and
the day won't be long in coming when we'll have no developers at all.
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-----Original Message----- From: MamaPeach
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?
You visit any other website or business like Ebay, Amazon.com, Walmart.com,
etc, , purchase a product, then you expect delivery of said product within a
reasonable amount of time, say 7 to 14 days? Would you wait 6 months before
inquiring where your product is? I don't know anyone that would be willing
to spend their money on something and then wait for an unspecified amount of
time to receive their purchased item and not get upset over not getting what
was paid for. I don't see that it should be any different for developer's of
games. People buy their products expecting to receive what they order, and
when it never arrives, they aren't supposed to worry about where it is or
why they haven't received it, and although they have written asking about
why they haven't gotten it, they receive no response for the person they
bought the item from? This just doesn't make sense to me and it isn't good
business practice, in my opinion. It makes me worry that if I choose to
purchase a game, that the developer's do not care whether we ever get what
we pay for. Six months? I know I would not appreciate waiting six months for
something I spent money on. Patience is one thing, but come on, no one
should have to wait that long when it is their money they are spending.
-----Original Message----- From: James Bartlett
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:02 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?
Sorry to say, but some people will never learn, and some people just don't
care, so the people out there like you and me that appreciat and respact all
the hard work that gos into making a game. With that said thank you to all
the programmers and developers. Keep up all the hard work.
bfn
James
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From: "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:00 PM
To: "audyssey gamers list" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?
A thought on impatience: Some people gripe
about the length of time taken by developers to
come out with a new game. Some people gripe if
they don't get a registration key right
away. Some people gripe about the fact that
they don't have enough games to
play. Strangely enough, these 3 complaints
come from pretty much the same few
people. These are also the same people who
want cheat codes very shortly after they get a new game.
Have you noticed what always seems to happen
when these complainers really get on a roll?
James North produced many very good games and
then quit. Why did this occur?? Liam has
voiced frustration, to say the least, and has
openly voiced a consideration of
quitting. Why? Other producers of games have
also vacated the premises. Guess why?
I commend those developers who have stuck it
out and continue working for those of us who do
care about and respect them. For those of us
who don't, and who only care about themselves
and what they want, when they want it and no
later, what's it going to take for you to learn
what you cause? It's about time you grow! up!
and think about someone other than you for a change.
Yes, I'm angry, and I think I have a darned
good reason to be. Although I don't create
games, I care about those who do, and it just
flat burns me up when you drive these creators
away with your selfish and downright childish behavior!
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