Hi Dark,

Well, you can still press alt+f4 on the desktop and up arrow once to
get to Shutdown in Windows 7 as well. Same in Windows 8. That hasn't
changed any. I was merely pointing out how to find Shutdown in the
Start Menu in Windows 7.

As to having a lot of content on screen that is true to a point, but
not necessarily true on newer versions of Windows. For example, on
Windows 8.1 the screens are far more dynamic. Meaning if you go in to
view the settings only the most commonly used settings are shown. You
have to click to see the other settings that are hidden, and often
times when you open up the settings it takes you back to the last
setting you changed. The reason for this is obvious. There is so much
space on screen, especially on tablets and phones, so now Windows is
smart enough to only show recently used items or the most commonly
used items and hide the rest.  So while there is a lot of content on
screen it is generally most likely what you want anyway.

All the same with touchscreens there is a move towards being able to
snap or pin stuff to your screen so you can easily find it and tap on
it. This is not likely to change given that most computers are
migrating to tuchscreen user interfaces and the keyboard is rapidly
becoming a thing of the past. With touchscreens it is a totally
different mindset from that of when XP was made so it is no wonder
there is a lot more direction towards touch user interfaces.

Cheers!



On 12/17/13, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> Well to an extent I agree, however equally compare what you just said about
>
> shutdown.
>
> "press control plus escape and tap three times to the shutdown button" to
> xp, press alt f4 and at most press up arrow once, it doesn't take a genius
> to see which is better.
> While I fully agree I could get used to the new interface, and indeed the
> time I spent experimenting with it showed as much, att the same time, I have
>
> noticed a very unfriendly modern tendency in interface design.
>
> On previous versions of windows the trend was towards simplicity, to having
>
> neet menues and submenues and  categorised file menue systems. This carried
>
> over into many programs.
>
> now, with Windows 7, and indeed with some of the interfaces for Iphone,
> tablets, and even Tv software the trend is to have as much information and
> as many icons on screen as possible. lists have been replaced with more
> complex tree views, often larger and more detailed ones.
>
> For a sighted person this makes sense, since it's like having everything on
>
> your desk within reach where you can get a quick visual overview of all
> objects.
>
> For a blind person however, where a specific set order is a better system,
> and where for example having a list with specific list items leading to
> smaller lists is better than a multiple tree view, it sis far less
> convenient.
>
> i've noticed this with my  low vision access to menues on dvds and the
> like.
>
> Now is it impossible? heck no! is it more trouble, the unfortunate answer is
>
> yes.
>
> There may well be occasions when that trouble is worth it. I imagine myself
>
> that once touch screen technology comes onto desktop I'll definitely! want
> to upgrade my os to take advantage of that.
>
> However that doesn't get over the central point, particularly because where
>
> as in xp the interface was heavily customizable and you could for example
> have as many icons on the desktop as you wished, have more or less complex
> start menue etc, that seems to be falling by the way side too.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> dark.
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