They may have what? I'm a little confused as to what exactly you're talking about here.
-------------------------------------------------- From: "tim" <z200...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:22 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started. They may have that but the one thing they don't have that a screen reader needs is sound support to make them useable. At 07:20 AM 10/22/2014, you wrote: >even recovery and reformat disks have graphical interfaces. even the >most popular linux first boots into a graphical interface unless you >get vinux CLI or grml console only linux. > >On 10/21/2014 6:55 PM, shaun everiss wrote: >>you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world >>and thats all they know. >>its one of my laments on computer stuff. >>In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to >>replace it or fix it. >>now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix >>it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. >>and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to >>replace it to quickly. >>An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. >>It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it >>because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. >>When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced >>it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. >>You ran all your boxes into the ground. >>People sadly do not think like that anymore. >> >>At 01:28 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: >>>Hi Shaun, >>> >>>Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of >>>generalizations about the younger players verses the older players >>>which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to >>>say all young people are like that. >>> >>>I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older >>>than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger >>>may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console >>>games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games >>>and introducing them to the genre without prejudice. >>> >>>Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was >>>by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot >>>of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers >>>appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art >>>sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal >>>graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d >>>graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had >>>tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be >>>regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to >>>older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some >>>of those older games can be. >>> >>>As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to >>>black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is >>>either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he >>>loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him >>>too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as >>>good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the >>>individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type >>>of game. >>> >>> >>> >>>On 10/20/14, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with >>> > text, and even audio games others are not. >>> > Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, >>> > if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger >>> > generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to >>> > run, and an i7 then its crap! >>> > And if its for the blind its crap! >>> > and text is crap! >>> > I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not >>> > knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard >>> > for some, not all but some. >>> > For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot >>> > this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. >>> > At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who >>> > care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have >>> > experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. >>> > for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. >>> > I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, >>> > and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross >>> > their minds and if they tried most would get lost. >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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