I guess that depends on what you mean by "graphical". By some logic, a bios is a graphical interface.
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:20 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which Istarted. even recovery and reformat disks have graphical interfaces. even the most popular linux first boots into a graphical interface unless you get vinux CLI or grml console only linux. On 10/21/2014 6:55 PM, shaun everiss wrote: > you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world > and thats all they know. > its one of my laments on computer stuff. > In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to > replace it or fix it. > now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it > but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. > and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to > replace it to quickly. > An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. > It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it > because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. > When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it > if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. > You ran all your boxes into the ground. > People sadly do not think like that anymore. > > At 01:28 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: >> Hi Shaun, >> >> Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of >> generalizations about the younger players verses the older players >> which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to >> say all young people are like that. >> >> I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older >> than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger >> may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console >> games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games >> and introducing them to the genre without prejudice. >> >> Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was >> by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot >> of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers >> appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art >> sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal >> graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d >> graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had >> tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be >> regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to >> older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some >> of those older games can be. >> >> As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to >> black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is >> either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he >> loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him >> too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as >> good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the >> individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type >> of game. >> >> >> >> On 10/20/14, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with >> > text, and even audio games others are not. >> > Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, >> > if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger >> > generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to >> > run, and an i7 then its crap! >> > And if its for the blind its crap! >> > and text is crap! >> > I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not >> > knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard >> > for some, not all but some. >> > For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot >> > this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. >> > At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who >> > care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have >> > experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. >> > for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. >> > I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, >> > and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross >> > their minds and if they tried most would get lost. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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