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From: "Orin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What's Ahead For MOTA Beta 2.


>I agree totally with this statement.
>
> As I said, we don't need sidescrollers. I've said it in the past.
> Super Liam is a game that shows us that sidescrollers are:
>
> 1. Too easy:
> 2: No replay value:
> 3: Too retro (When was the last time a sighted gamer even mentioned
> that a sidescroller was coming out?) Well, no one did simply because
> there isn't one, and there never will be. If the sighted people have 3-
> D games, we should be getting them too. I know people like me who
> don't play audio games because of this simple factor. A bunch of us
> have said it before, and I'll say it again since Tomas was the only
> one that seemed to notice: We have too much arcade games. We don't
> have a single complex game out there that is challenging and or
> competes with, Monkey Business. Which is, in case the babies of the
> blind community haven't noticed, and probably haven't beaten it yet,
> the most challenging game in the accessible games market today. Now
> it'd be considered a classic. But Tomas, please just make the audio
> games market better by making both STFC 2 and Moda 3-D. To get the
> sidescroller out of the way, slap some code together real fast. If
> there's bugs? Tuff luck. Also, make it freeware and forget about it.
> Than you can start to work on extremely hard, and complex games with
> new consepts that blind people have never sceen before in an
> accessible game.
>
> Orin
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>
> Do you like mudding? To discuss related  topics, go here. 
> http://www.tbmic.jiglu.com
>
> Do you like audio books? Would you like to hear them with enritching
> sound, music and acting? Stop reading books from the NLS, and go to 
> http://www.graphicaudio.net
> , you'll be glad you did. I don't work there, but I love them so much
> I have to advertise them in every email I send.
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 7:29 PM, will lomas wrote:
>
>> but youa re thomas, onlyp roducing this for the minority all the rest
>> of us tom want the 3d game why are you giving into charles let him cry
>> in the corner, see if we care, we don't
>> hands up who gives a toss whether a few peoples' opinions matter?
>> look, all the kiddies raised there hands, we don't. see?
>> we want the 3d game tom if charles hadn't have objected and others
>> this would ahve been the plan
>> see charles, truth hurts but i am right. do us all a favour and
>> unsubscribe as you are just  person causing bs for one fella and the
>> rest of us
>>
>> On 22 Mar 2008, at 00:12, Thomas Ward wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Charles,
>>> Thanks to me being a very honest person  you wouldn't even have known
>>> what the poll results were if I hadn't published them on the list.
>>> If I
>>> was unscrupulous, less honest, I would announced a totally different
>>> out
>>> come and you wouldn't have known the difference. As it is I was being
>>> honest about the results.
>>> It is not that the poll results are unimportant or I don't care what
>>> you
>>> all think. It is about I have to spend six months, a year, whatever
>>> of
>>> my life making a game I don't want to create. A game I have lost all
>>> interest in, and in all likelyhood never play again after it is
>>> finished.
>>> Let's put this in perspective. Most of the time I program for fun. I
>>> do
>>> it as relaxation, for entertainment value, and when it loses that
>>> entertainment value what is it? It is called work.
>>> It is a well known fact i write these games in my free or spare time.
>>> What you are commiting me to is not working on a job, but using all
>>> of
>>> my free or spare time to deliver something for someone elses
>>> enjoyment.
>>> Not my own.
>>> Now, in return for this game I want you and the rest of the
>>> community to
>>> use every minute of your family or free time doing home work, house
>>> work, tending to other things. You aren't alloud to watch as much TV,
>>> read as many books, because you have to do a project for everyone
>>> else
>>> that gives you absolutely no satisfaction or enjoyment. See how long
>>> you
>>> last.
>>>
>>> Charles Rivard wrote:
>>>> I very much agree.  What about those poll results??  The majority
>>>> wanted a
>>>> side scrolling game, which there are not enough of.  What will we
>>>> be getting
>>>> and why?  You were on the right track of customer service.  As a
>>>> game
>>>> developer, are you going to give us, the majority of gamers who
>>>> were asked,
>>>> what we?? want, or what you. want.  I realize that you are not
>>>> making any
>>>> money from those of us who preordered, but think of it this way:
>>>> What did
>>>> we pay for?  After you took the project over, what did we ask for
>>>> when you
>>>> asked us which way to go?  What are we now going to get after all
>>>> this?  I
>>>> respectfully ask that you rethink and go back to at least a side
>>>> scroller.
>>>> I'm sure i will like what you have planned, but I think it should
>>>> be sold as
>>>> a new game, and make the side scroller as the game we paid for and
>>>> then
>>>> voted for when asked our preference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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