my main problem with online score systems.  I have mentioend this
before I'm sure.  I've wanted to run contests and things using the
score boards.  because people are using game cheater, or cheater
thingy, or what not.  This invalidates the concept of everyone being
on a fair and even playing field.

On 1/13/10, Brice Mellen <buu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I can see where the programmer comes from on that standpoint,
> especially after the hard work put in to the game. Lol don't worry I only
> cheat on console games anyways.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of Philip Bennefall
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:45 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.
>
> Hello there,
>
> In prinsiple I agree with you that nothing is unhackable, but in this case
> there is actually a fairly bulletproof method of preventing values from
> being changed when they are not meant to be. Game cheater, for instance, is
> out of action in 10 seconds and the same goes for any other memory modifying
>
> application. In order to get around this you'd have to do some serious
> disassembling of the program and the moment that is done, the license
> agreement is void and the user will have forfitted all their rights.
>
> If the developer deliberatly adds cheat codes to a game that is one thing,
> but modifying the memory of the program to get advantages is just plain
> wrong in my mind.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Philip Bennefall
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brice Mellen" <buu...@gmail.com>
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.
>
>
>> Sorry to say but no matter what you guys do people will always find a way
>> to
>> cheat, it can't be helped. But I don't think we should get on peoples
>> cases
>> who want to cheat, maybe they do it out of enjoyment of being immortal for
>
>> a
>> while. In my case I cheat when I have beat the game to see what else I can
>> do, or find or whatever, sometimes a all items coe will bring up an item
>> in
>> your inventory you didn't even know existed and that would give you what
>> you
>> needed to go online look it up, or try to find it your self in the game.
>> The
>> only way you would be able to stop it is if you all started making mmo
>> rpgs
>> where you store all your characters info on a server that can't be hacked
>> in
>> to why do you think people can't cheat in ff or WoW, and even then I'm
>> sure
>> there are people that have found a way to cheat in those games as well.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of Liam Erven
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:04 PM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game
>> cheating.
>>
>> I as well will be following in Philip's footsteps to protect against
>> this.  If nothing else to annoy everyone who uses these cheater
>> programs.
>>
>> On 1/13/10, peter Mahach <piterm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I did at first, but I dropped it. now I prefer to make cheats my self -
>> now
>>> that I program a bit as a hobby.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jim Kitchen" <j...@kitchensinc.net>
>>> To: "Liam Erven" <Gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game
>> cheating.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Liam,
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, and what fun would it be to use total cheats to play a game?
>>>>
>>>> I mean I had to look up some cheats to finish some text adventure games,
>>>> but using a program to change points etc in a game while you're playing
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> Heck I have never even built any cheats into any of my games.  I just
>>>> wouldn't have any fun if I could just cheat to win or finish the game.
>>>>
>>>> BFN
>>>>
>>>>     Jim
>>>>
>>>> Represented by the law firm of Dewy, Cheatem and How.
>>>>
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