Agreed.

I can think of a number of topics, ---- muds before vip mud was released, raceway, jaws and window eyes scripting, and topics related to several games which have no interested me personally.


That's why E-mails have subjects, and that's what the delete key is for!

i want to learn, and the best way of learning is asking questions, and the best people to question about audio games designer are those who design them, not general programmers, web designers or anything else.

I'd deffinately like bgt related topics to please stay on list despite them not being to some people's interest (If I complained and threatened to leave everytime people started discussing details jaws scripts, ---- I'd have been gone a long time ago).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Loravara" <lorav...@comcast.net>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list wasRe: PLEASE STOP


I would like to agree with this.  I think BGT is highly relevant to this
list.  Please allow discussions to continue; for those not interested, the
delete key works well.

I suspect we've all had to delete messages we weren't interested in. That's
the beauty of a list; many topics and ideas can be discussed, and you
participate in those that are of interest to you.



-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Hayden Presley
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:24 PM
To: tate...@gmail.com; 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re:
PLEASE STOP

Hi ann,
Amen to that! There is no actual reason this should be removed from the
list. Those of you who arecomplaining could just as well chosen to complain about posting topics related to MOTA or Q9, it just so happens it is BGT. I
for one agree, and I do not want to have to go to a forum in order to look
at info about the BGT. I for one have ran across topics that held no
interest for me, it's simple...press delete.
Best regards,
Hayden

-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Please don't force BGT topics from this list was Re:
PLEASE STOP

hello everyone,

I, for one, would not like to see the topics about the new BGT tool and
how to use it forced off of this list. I am not a programmer, nor will I
ever be a computer programmer. But, I am a game player and am very
interested in this tool which may allow those of us who have no interest
in becoming computer programmers the ability to create games.

I know that statement in and of itself will enrage some people on this
list, the statement about my having no interest in actual computer
programming, I mean..

I see nothing wrong with discussions about this topic being kept on the
list. I do not want to have to join a computer programming list, where
ninety-nine percent of the topics will be way over my head, nor do I
want to have to join and remember to visit some web forum to learn  more
about his  tool exclusively.

. If you don't want to read about it, then for Heaven Sake, just don't
open the emails and read them. Hit the "Delete" key on any with  BGT in
the subject line. That won't eliminate all of the BGT mail, but it will
get a good many of them. I'm sure all of us on this list routinely run
across many messages which hold no interest for us, but we deal with it.

Please, list mods, don't let the complaints of a very few control this
list. It is an emailing list, after all, and a spike in traffic once in
a while is to be expected, especially accompanying the release of a
wonderful new game tool. Once the tool has been around for a while, the
email traffic will slow down yet again.

~Ann T


On 3/25/2010 5:37 PM, Anne Walker wrote:
Okay, ya'll. This is getting rather ridiculous. I am getting WAY WAY WAY
too many emails that are PROGRAMMING related. Not gaming related. What I
mean is - there is a list for beginning programming and that is where you
should be discussing the hows, whys, and what-abouts for the BGT. Don't get
me wrong - this seems like it will be a wonderful tool that will help the
lay-person be able to develop their own games. HOWEVER - my understanding is
that THIS list is for the discussion of how to play these wonderful games
that Thomas, Phil, Jim, and the others have created and either sold or given
away for free. What tricks others have learned, and all of that. About 98%
of the emails over the last couple of days have only been about how to use
Phil's toolkit, how to write code, and why it isn't working for them. PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE either email the developers personally, sign up for the
PROGRAMMING list (one of which is:
http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind), or create your own list so that I can keep learning more about the games for the blind that are ALREADY
DEVELOPED.
Thank you.

Anne W.
sighted audio gamer
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