Hi,
Have you tried my sound pack for Audio Quake? I think you'll find it makes a lot more sense. For example, you hear a door slamming instead of a low hum for--well--a door. The wall sounds and slopes were changed too. I actually modified the Jedi mod for Audio Quake, that gives a coordinate system and allows you to adjust, on the fly, the scanning rate so you can run and still hear what you're flying past. I even made a hunter rocket. It doesn't do much damage at all, but you can shoot it and follow it as it hunts down that next monster. I'm sure some would say it makes things way too easy, but in the episodes you really need all the help you can get. I'll post it on my site, along with the sound pack for SoundRTS as soon as I get hold of it--it's on my hard drive which currently isn't plugged in. The real bummer is that I just paid fifty bucks for a web host. I'm stuck with the host for a year. He was very honest about what his company offered, and since I value honesty highly I signed up. What I didn't realize is how much extra he was charging for extra storage space, and since I only get 25 megs it's no good as a storage spot, which means I'm linking everything to good-old flopbox for now. Louis Bryant is being kind enough to give me server space for Phrase Madness, which is nearly complete, including the comments uploader, so once I've sold some games I'm going to get a better web host. Till then you'll all have to settle for Dropbox if you want sound packs.


Ken Downey
The Addictor
www.TheAddictor.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Randall" <kf6...@comcast.net>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 5:50 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Dumbing down games (was RE: anyone got anny suggestionsfor the next versionofbattlezone?)


Hi all.

I've been following this very stimulating discussion.  I'm also a bit of a
mainstream gamer as most of you know, I started out on the old Atari games
back when home computers were first coming out and audio games had not even
been thought of yet.  For that reason I too am used to doing without audio
cues to a large extent and I mainly agree with the idea that figuring a game out is more than half the fun. Having said that though, those of us who are
into these kinds of games and who enjoy figuring things out do need to
remember that not everyone is at this level and we don't want to discourage
new people from getting into gaming, the gods know there are few enough of
us as it is whether you are talking about mainstream or audio games.  Just
as a for instance. I tried to get into audio quake a few years back, I even
went so far as to get hold of an old copy of the full game.  I tried
learning how to make it work but I found it pretty impossible.  The sound
cues just did not make any sense at all and I eventually got frustrated and gave up. So I can see where some of these new gamers are maybe coming from.
From a programming standpoint I would not think it should be too hard to
satisfy both sides here, if a cue is subtle such as a slightly different
sounding footstep such as you encounter in shades of doom when you are close
to a wall this should not be intolerable to the advanced gamer who doesn't
want them.  For things like targetting sounds I think these should be
optional so the beginner can use them but the advanced player can dispense
with them if he wishes.

Well that's my two cents' worth on this for now.

Game on.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:45 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone got anny suggestions for the next
versionofbattlezone?


To be fair, Yohandy has a point... most gamers learn that way. The
people who I mention who will not play a game until they've read a
complete walkthrough are in the minority. And I agree with this point
as well... part of the fun in the games is learning how to conquer
something, whether it be a puzzle, a particular type of enemy, whatever.

At 06:40 PM 06/04/2011, you wrote:
Hi Clement,
Jumping over pits? Lol...no. I'm saying that having to die in order to
figure something out is ridiculous. Notice I said "having".

Best Regards,
Hayden


-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
On Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:37 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone got anny suggestions for the next
versionofbattlezone?

Um... not sure what you mean there. Jumping over pits in a game is not
ridiculous. lol.

At 06:33 PM 06/04/2011, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Bt the same token, you should not have to die to figure out how to do
>something; that, to put it simply, is blatantly ridiculous.
>
>Best Regards,
>Hayden


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