Hi all. I've been following this very stimulating discussion. I'm also a bit of a mainstream gamer as most of you know, I started out on the old Atari games back when home computers were first coming out and audio games had not even been thought of yet. For that reason I too am used to doing without audio cues to a large extent and I mainly agree with the idea that figuring a game out is more than half the fun. Having said that though, those of us who are into these kinds of games and who enjoy figuring things out do need to remember that not everyone is at this level and we don't want to discourage new people from getting into gaming, the gods know there are few enough of us as it is whether you are talking about mainstream or audio games. Just as a for instance. I tried to get into audio quake a few years back, I even went so far as to get hold of an old copy of the full game. I tried learning how to make it work but I found it pretty impossible. The sound cues just did not make any sense at all and I eventually got frustrated and gave up. So I can see where some of these new gamers are maybe coming from. >From a programming standpoint I would not think it should be too hard to satisfy both sides here, if a cue is subtle such as a slightly different sounding footstep such as you encounter in shades of doom when you are close to a wall this should not be intolerable to the advanced gamer who doesn't want them. For things like targetting sounds I think these should be optional so the beginner can use them but the advanced player can dispense with them if he wishes.
Well that's my two cents' worth on this for now. Game on. Tom -----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone got anny suggestions for the next versionofbattlezone? To be fair, Yohandy has a point... most gamers learn that way. The people who I mention who will not play a game until they've read a complete walkthrough are in the minority. And I agree with this point as well... part of the fun in the games is learning how to conquer something, whether it be a puzzle, a particular type of enemy, whatever. At 06:40 PM 06/04/2011, you wrote: >Hi Clement, >Jumping over pits? Lol...no. I'm saying that having to die in order to >figure something out is ridiculous. Notice I said "having". > >Best Regards, >Hayden > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] >On Behalf Of Clement Chou >Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:37 PM >To: Gamers Discussion list >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone got anny suggestions for the next >versionofbattlezone? > >Um... not sure what you mean there. Jumping over pits in a game is not >ridiculous. lol. > >At 06:33 PM 06/04/2011, you wrote: > >Hi, > >Bt the same token, you should not have to die to figure out how to do > >something; that, to put it simply, is blatantly ridiculous. > > > >Best Regards, > >Hayden > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your >subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your >subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.