Lol I thought it was you but I couldn't quite be sure there.... lol! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damien C. Pendleton Sent: 20 July 2011 18:43 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] This is all crazy
Hi list, And please excuse me for emailing from my partner's account. She used to check her emails through my computer so I get messages in duplication and sometimes I am not sure which one I am replying to. I shall delete that account off my machine now so as not to confuse me in the future. Lol. Regards, Damien. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyriannette T. Snowden" <[email protected]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] This is all crazy > Hi Richard and all, > OK, I will publicly apologise and stand corrected about Thomas's reaction > to all of this. When I wrote my email this morning I was in the middle of > broadcasting and Thomas's final resignation and unsubscription > notification caught me before the rest did, and I wrote and responded in > haste and frustration. > I have just gone back and read the archive and was shocked to read how > inappropriately Thomas handled this situation and as co-moderator would > have expected better of him. I was additionally shocked that he could > insult and flame someone as decent as Che and accuse him of attacking and > insulting him. However, also as a member on the USAGames mailing list I > have seen some of the attacks that the guy has been through from members > of the blind community in general, and can see why he feels as frustrated > as he does. > Whether Che said anything out of turn or not, others have also > contributed, both on this list, his other list, and, though I obviously > haven't seen this, privately as well. > Usually, I would have thought Thomas quite logical, reasonable and calm, > and I can't imagine why all this blew out of nothing. > Please bare with me as I return to reading this huge pile of messages that > will undoubtedly present the full story, and I shall then form my opinions > and make my decisions from there. > I do think some of us could've handled the situation better than we did, > including myself. As I said all I can do is apologise for the > misunderstanding on my part. > Regards, > Damien. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Claridge" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:02 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] This is all crazy > > >> Hi all. >> I cannot believe what has gone on here, and really how blinded people >> have been. >> Many of the responses in the last couple of hours since Thomas left I >> just can't understand. I think people need to reread what has >> happened. >> The person I feel most sorry for is Che. From what I understand and >> have read this all kicked off because of Thomas having his opinion on >> programming languages, which he messaged about in terms that were >> misunderstood by many. To be honest I do think the way Thomas writes >> can very often seem like he is coming across as superior because of >> his college training in programming and years of experience etc. I >> know he offers lots of people advice and fully respect this, but he >> does preach a lot as well. So Che wrote back expressing his >> displeasure at Thomas's words and his way of writing. Now if people >> read Che's message or messages back they will hopefully see that >> nowhere in this did he personally attack Thomas, just the way Thomas >> wrote and how it came across to him. Then Thomas basically flew off >> the handle and started swaring and personally insulting Che, which I >> thought was disgusting. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we lose >> another developer here in Che because of Thomas's reaction and others >> later support for him and open hostilitytowards Che. >> I think Thomas is really a great guy who has been put under pressure >> by people too much with regards to bringing out MOTA etc. I do believe >> this community has itself to blaim a lot for winding up developers and >> expecting too much. But Thomas's reaction was so over the top and out >> of order from a list member, but a moderator as well, well frankly its >> not on. >> I think its a real shame that MOTA is not going to be worked on for a >> while at least, and we could lose it forever, as I like the game and >> was looking forward to it. Thomas has always informed the community >> too much in a way of what has been going on with MOTA and taking too >> many suggestions etc on board in my opinion. Making the game how >> people wanted it not how he wanted it. This has been a lot of his >> problem, and he has lost the excitment and enjoyment of creating this >> game because of this. >> I think Darren in a way has got it spot on about him bringing up a >> load of stuff in his last message or two, Thomas I mean, about his >> marriage etc, this is unnecessary and is intentionally or not, an >> attempt to put the blaim on certain people other than himself. >> Che, you never personaly insulted Thomas, and I hope otheres realise >> this. I hope you stay with us and don't take Thomas's disgusting words >> and personal attacks to heart. >> Damien I think as a moderator you are being too biast, Thomas is a >> good guy yes, but he has been totally out of order here regardless of >> which buttons have been pushed. I am a personal friend of yours and >> don't wantt to fall out over this but I think you've got it wrong, an >> you should be discouraging people from attacking Che whether by name >> or not, and be as objective as you possibly can. >> I will stop now, for now, I am upset by this whole thing, and hope >> people will really look at the entire situation rather than just >> taking sides with the developer who was here first. I think many of >> you have got it wrong. >> Cheers >> Richard > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. 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