Some brains seem to have talent right from the off, but I've never heard of anyone, let's say a musician in this case, who can then splurge that creativity out of their head into reality in one live take and do it justice without putting in the hours to develop muscle memory. If you know different, I'd be fascinated to know more.
On 7/26/12, Trouble <[email protected]> wrote: > Some people almost can its called talent. > > At 03:00 PM 7/26/2012, you wrote: >>Derek's level of ability becomes a lot more explicable though if you >>consider that the chap has spent more time each day of his life since >>a very young age at a piano than anywhere else, discounting sleep. It >>hasn't been just mindless plonking either, there have always been >>people around him who understand enough music theory to coach and >>encourage, those being there in addition to some of the finest tuition >>available. I guess it's fascinating to some how the raw talent was >>there in the first place, but talent plus insane amounts of practice >>usually equals virtuoso, Derek isn't an exception. He's an amazing >>musician for sure, but it's worth remembering how his days have been >>spent. All too often I see people asuming he just woke up one day as >>the player he is now. If only it were that easy! >> >> >>On 7/26/12, Yohandy <[email protected]> wrote: >> > There are some true inexplicable mysteries out there though. This is a >> > bit >> > off topic, but since music came up I'd like to mention Derek >> Paravicini, the >> > >> > blind and severely autistic pianist. It would take a while to explain >> > why >> > this guy is so amazing, so I'll link you guys to a few videos. it'll >> > give >> > you an idea of what this guy's all about and his incredible >> improv skill and >> > >> > technique. >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpIigV7-kJk >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XztWqdEeyZQ >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BINSQNo8-18 >> > and last one is a documentary: >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fibZudrZUto >> > Now how could anything like this be explained logically? For all we >> > know, >> > this guy is the most talented pianist on earth, and that's no >> > exageration. >> > He can play any song, in any key, in any style he chooses. in fact he >> > can >> > play them chromatically. check this out: >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnqvmPCDli0 >> > he can compose songs on the spot, however he cannot count to 10. >> > explain >> > this. It's sorta hard not to compare pianists to this guy now. lol >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:27 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] working Holodeck game >> > >> > >> >> Hi Dark, >> >> >> >> Oh, don't get me started. I hate the so called blind privileged >> >> experience argument. That's a load of crap circulated by people who >> >> have never been sighted, who think their experience is superior to >> >> everyone else, and argue essentially from ignorance. Especially, when >> >> the subject at hand such as music has nothing to do with being blind >> >> or sighted in the first place. >> >> >> >> For example, a few years ago there was a blind Canadian jazz and >> >> blues-rock musician named Jeff Healey. He was an exceptionally good >> >> guitar player, and loved to show off his talent by playing the guitar >> >> flat on his lap. I can't argue with his skill as a guitarist, since I >> >> do admire his skills myself, but many people jumped to that >> >> stereotypical conclusion that because he was blind that made him >> >> somehow superior to sighted musicians. Of course, the fact he was >> >> blind had absolutely nothing to do with it. It all came down to a lot >> >> of time and practice to pull off feats like that. >> >> >> >> There have been a number of extremely talented sighted guitar players >> >> that are as good as if not better than Jeff Healey. People like Eddy >> >> Van Halen, Jimmi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Richard Van Zant from Linard >> >> Skinard, to name just a few have made a name for themselves as world >> >> renown guitarists. The point here is that being a very exceptional >> >> guitar player doesn't have anything to do with being blind. It all >> >> comes down to skill and talent. >> >> >> >> Anyway, getting back on topic here you are right. There are a number >> >> of experiences where blindness doesn't effect it one way or another. >> >> Sometimes a blind person has to do things differently, but can >> >> essentially have the same experience as his/her sighted friends and >> >> family. >> >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7/25/12, dark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Tom. >> >>> >> >>> both true, however one thing I want to avoid n any discussion with >> >>> disability and effort is the idea of privelidged experience, that >> >>> there >> >>> is a >> >>> >> >>> "blind experience" of the world whicch nobody else can understand or >> >>> participate in, even when that experience has nothing to do with >> >>> blindness. >> >>> >> >>> i have for instance read papers by peoplke who claime that blind >> >>> people, >> >>> (and by their implication All! blind people), have an understanding >> >>> and >> >>> experience of music beyond everyone else. To me, this is exclusivist >> >>> rubbish, sinse I've met some pretty tone deaf blind people and some >> >>> amazing >> >>> >> >>> sighted musicians,, and just as we must acknolidge that sighted >> >>> people >> >>> can! >> >>> >> >>> play audio games, it is equally true that there are experiences which >> >>> blindness doesn't affect. >> >>> >> >>> perhaps the example of text games was a bad one because of cost, but >> >>> music, >> >>> >> >>> playing audio games, communicating in an auditory way, learning >> >>> massage, >> >>> would probably be different. >> >>> >> >>> Beware the grue! >> >>> >> >>> Dark. >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> >> [email protected]. >> >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> >> list, >> >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> > [email protected]. >> > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> > list, >> > please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> > >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >>please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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