You make some good points, and I never said this could be done without
practice. IN fact, the documentary mentioned that when he first started,
he'd play using karate chops, with his nose etc. however, the fact that he
has perfect pitch, and can distinguish any number of notes played
simultaneous is a great mystery. if I play 10 random notes on a piano, can
you play all of them back perfectly? They even did orchestra tests to try
and find out how much he could play at once, and since he obviously couldn't
play everything he heard using block cords, he'd arpeggiate to try and play
the piece. Derek can also play any song he hears almost instantly. in fact,
it was mentioned on one of the videos I've watched that he's memorized over
10000 songs. You request it, Derek will play it. Simple as that. If you guys
haven't watched the documentary, I strongly suggest you do so. Fascinating
stuff. it's obviously not all about being blind or sighted, and I doubt it's
as simple as just practice. there have to be other factors involved.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Chesworth" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] working Holodeck game
Derek's level of ability becomes a lot more explicable though if you
consider that the chap has spent more time each day of his life since
a very young age at a piano than anywhere else, discounting sleep. It
hasn't been just mindless plonking either, there have always been
people around him who understand enough music theory to coach and
encourage, those being there in addition to some of the finest tuition
available. I guess it's fascinating to some how the raw talent was
there in the first place, but talent plus insane amounts of practice
usually equals virtuoso, Derek isn't an exception. He's an amazing
musician for sure, but it's worth remembering how his days have been
spent. All too often I see people asuming he just woke up one day as
the player he is now. If only it were that easy!
On 7/26/12, Yohandy <[email protected]> wrote:
There are some true inexplicable mysteries out there though. This is a
bit
off topic, but since music came up I'd like to mention Derek Paravicini,
the
blind and severely autistic pianist. It would take a while to explain why
this guy is so amazing, so I'll link you guys to a few videos. it'll give
you an idea of what this guy's all about and his incredible improv skill
and
technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpIigV7-kJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XztWqdEeyZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BINSQNo8-18
and last one is a documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fibZudrZUto
Now how could anything like this be explained logically? For all we know,
this guy is the most talented pianist on earth, and that's no
exageration.
He can play any song, in any key, in any style he chooses. in fact he can
play them chromatically. check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnqvmPCDli0
he can compose songs on the spot, however he cannot count to 10. explain
this. It's sorta hard not to compare pianists to this guy now. lol
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] working Holodeck game
Hi Dark,
Oh, don't get me started. I hate the so called blind privileged
experience argument. That's a load of crap circulated by people who
have never been sighted, who think their experience is superior to
everyone else, and argue essentially from ignorance. Especially, when
the subject at hand such as music has nothing to do with being blind
or sighted in the first place.
For example, a few years ago there was a blind Canadian jazz and
blues-rock musician named Jeff Healey. He was an exceptionally good
guitar player, and loved to show off his talent by playing the guitar
flat on his lap. I can't argue with his skill as a guitarist, since I
do admire his skills myself, but many people jumped to that
stereotypical conclusion that because he was blind that made him
somehow superior to sighted musicians. Of course, the fact he was
blind had absolutely nothing to do with it. It all came down to a lot
of time and practice to pull off feats like that.
There have been a number of extremely talented sighted guitar players
that are as good as if not better than Jeff Healey. People like Eddy
Van Halen, Jimmi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Richard Van Zant from Linard
Skinard, to name just a few have made a name for themselves as world
renown guitarists. The point here is that being a very exceptional
guitar player doesn't have anything to do with being blind. It all
comes down to skill and talent.
Anyway, getting back on topic here you are right. There are a number
of experiences where blindness doesn't effect it one way or another.
Sometimes a blind person has to do things differently, but can
essentially have the same experience as his/her sighted friends and
family.
Cheers!
On 7/25/12, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Tom.
both true, however one thing I want to avoid n any discussion with
disability and effort is the idea of privelidged experience, that there
is a
"blind experience" of the world whicch nobody else can understand or
participate in, even when that experience has nothing to do with
blindness.
i have for instance read papers by peoplke who claime that blind
people,
(and by their implication All! blind people), have an understanding and
experience of music beyond everyone else. To me, this is exclusivist
rubbish, sinse I've met some pretty tone deaf blind people and some
amazing
sighted musicians,, and just as we must acknolidge that sighted people
can!
play audio games, it is equally true that there are experiences which
blindness doesn't affect.
perhaps the example of text games was a bad one because of cost, but
music,
playing audio games, communicating in an auditory way, learning
massage,
would probably be different.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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