...and if you believe the fear mongers, it could get worse. Concealed Weapon 
Permit applications are at an all-time high. Looks like we may be returning 
either to the old west or Chicago in the 30's... :(

Randy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gatorrrrrr 
  To: Gatortalk 
  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:21 AM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman facing 
accusation of multiple date rapes


  Its some really tough times out there guys... Sendin allll kindsa positive 
thoughts your way. 


  I may have a bit of a scare comin my way... While i am really conflicted by 
it... Alot is riding on what happens with GM for me.  

  Woody
  Sent from iPhone

  On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:06 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:


    Thanks everybody for the encouraging words (although, working for a company 
that makes IT software....uffff...guess just need to ride it out for now!).

    I think for a quarter, I am going to not contribute to 401K (I am sure Jay 
sez NO!)...company match has been suspended too. Will just wait and watch.


    On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Jerry Belloit <[email protected]> wrote:

      Jnene, Randy,  Badrish, and others who have been hit hard by these 
troubling economic  times,



      I am really sorry to hear about your difficulties.  Jnene, I was envious 
about your husband’s job at the Union.  I had thought about doing something 
like that when I retire.  No raises for that long has to be stressing the 
family budget.  Badrish, that is a big pay cut, but I guess the alternative 
might be Randy’s situation.  Someone told me recently that companies were 
cutting back on their IT but I did not believe it.  I guess I was wrong.  



      I serve a the treasurer for a multiple county community foundation where 
we manage a significant amount of money.  Today I had a meeting of the 
investment committee and we met with our three different account managers.  It 
was not pretty.  I had anticipated the bad news in our equity portfolio, but 
some of the fixed has experienced losses as well. I could not imagine A bond 
portfolios losing money, but there were some companies that went bankrupt and 
some barely on life support (AIG)..  Go figure.  I thought thing were horrible 
until I realized that they were reporting on December 31 year end totals.  
Since then we have probably lost another 7-9%.  Unfortunately, there will be a 
lot less scholarships awarded this year.  



      There was a consensus from all three experts (perhaps I should say so 
called experts since they did not adequately hedge protect the portfolio) that 
the market should level out at the end of the first quarter with the economy  
showing positive GNP growth by the third quarter.  I pray they are correct.  



      By the way, for those of you who have fled the equity market and are 
holding bonds, I instructed our fund managers to shorten the average maturities 
of the fixed markets to target no more than two – three years.  I am very 
worried that our national debt will come home to roost and we could see some 
significant inflation in 2-3 years.  If I am correct, the bond market will be 
hit hard.



      Jerry







      From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of [email protected]
      Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:51 PM
      To: [email protected]


      Subject: Re: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman 
facing accusation of multiple date rapes



      Ouch! My pay has been frozen for 3 years. The husband's has been frozen 
for 2 years. This too shall pass...

      On Thu 26/02/09 6:39 PM , "[email protected]" [email protected] sent:

      Me too...we just took a 20% pay cut...across the company.



      On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:

      Me too.  I’m going to run 20 miles on Sunday.





      Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI

      Real Estate Broker

      Halo Realty, LLC

      700 E. Main St.

      Hendersonville TN 37075

      [email protected]

      office: 615-822-3509

      fax: 615-822-7741

      mobile: 615-972-4239

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      From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
      Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:58 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: RE: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman 
facing accusation of multiple date rapes



      I’m really looking forward to sculling this weekend. I need a break.



      From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Shane Ford
      Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:53 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: RE: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman 
facing accusation of multiple date rapes



      DARN, Jay!  I can't wait that long........  We've been waiting to hear 
about the F$U sanctions for..... well....  I can't remember, but I'm sure it's 
been a LONG time.  :-)  





        -------------- Original message from "Jay Cicone" : -------------- 

        It’s imminent.



        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Shane Ford
        Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
        To: [email protected]; Gatortalk
        Cc: Oliver Barry
        Subject: Re: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman 
facing accusation of multiple date rapes



        No NEW word on the Gainesville Sun's website about it.  



        Shane



        GO GATORS!!



          -------------- Original message from "Oliver Barry" 
<[email protected]>: -------------- 

          According to Gatorcountry the charges were supposed to be dropped in 
court yesterday.  I don't know if that's what happened because I haven't been 
near a computer yet today to find out.
          Oliver

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Rob Alexander <[email protected]>
          Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:45 PM
          To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
          Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman facing 
accusation of multiple date rapes

          I really don't understand how someone would be date-raped three 
times. Isn't
          a date-rape that you voluntarily went on a date with someone and then 
were
          raped by the person you were on a date with? So, after that happened, 
she
          went out on another date with the same guy who had raped her on the 
first
          date? Why would any woman do that? And then, after being raped again 
on the
          second date, she went out yet a third time with a guy who had raped 
her
          twice before? That would be stupid beyond belief.



          Rob



          From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On
          Behalf Of John Vega
          Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:22 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman facing
          accusation of multiple date rapes





          On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:






          Remember that he is being accused, but has not been charged - nor has 
the
          girl even pressed charges on the alleged date rapes.

          The hearing is a civil matter on whether or not to continue a 
restraining
          order she had taken out on him.

          I'd say typical spin from a poodle paper, but our local rag has been 
almost
          as sensational, and just as misleading with their headlines.



          I'm not sure where I read this, but I recall that the restraining 
order was
          asked for months after their relationship had ended and in response to
          Johnson dating another woman.



          While that does not invalidate the allegations, it sure makes me 
skeptical.



          I'm also a little puzzled as to the likelihood of a woman being 
susceptible
          to date rape on three separate occasions.



          I'd wager that Johnson comes out looking pretty good once all the 
facts are
          known.



          -Zeb

























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