About those semi-pro teams. They barely make their way. Why is it the cities that have them fight to keep them? Because they generate money for the city through good will, recycling money earned, other sales like hotel rooms, etc.
It's just not that big a leap to see UAA does the same thing. You missed my point, football pays its way, but it does a lot more than that through monies it brings in indirectly to the university. A bigger stadium seats more people. More people generate more dollars contributed to the University. Why is this a difficult concept? Funny you should mention Charlie Pell. (1979 team) He had a vision for what the UAA could become and went about bringing that to reality. Isn't the whole university better off than it was when Charlie was coach? Of course it is and it isn't just because of the direct money contribution of UAA. Of course UAA wouldn't be in existence if it weren't for the university. The University wouldn't be a 10th of what it is without UAA either. The administration knows that, the people who had a vision for what the University could be 30 years ago knew that too. Again, we're all better off because of what UAA is doing and because of what those three Heisman Trophy winners have done for the University of Florida. If you believe so strongly they shouldn't erect those statues, I guess all your contributory dollars are/have been supporting the Law School? (more lawyers, that's what we really need! Again, just joking!!) At any rate, your whole argument is moot. The donations came from private donors, not UAA. These are some rich guys who can do anything they want with their money. I'd wager they've given money to University College too. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe] On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:18 PM, [email protected] wrote: That is why it's called a donation. Giving more money to the university could be justified in any year, not just this year when things are bad. If the UAA were part of the University, it would be called a budget. But for the University, the UAA would not earn a dime. Semi-pro football founders, and even minor league baseball has trouble making money (with better players than play NCAA ball). So, I have trouble understanding that, when an arm of the University comes in under-budget, why not spending more money is considered a "donation." Actually, the UAA gives more money than most other schools get out of their sports programs. Besides, who do you think funds softball, soccer and lacrosse? Ticket sales? Not only the sports, but all the scholarships related to ALL of the non-revenue sports at UF are funded by UAA. Well, OK, but how does this matter? Wouldn't they be part of the athletic department budget at another school? Money is fungible. I think your real point is that football pays for everything. Fine, but understand that a football-only athletic department would have serious Title IX problems, and that the non-revenue women's sports could reasonably be considered a part of the cost of operating the football program. The vast majority of colleges don't do that, nor do they even run in the black in any given year. That takes money directly away from professors at f$U. Does the financial success of the UF football program depend upon: 1. our students and alumni 2. our success on the field 3. the adroitness of the UAA? I recall selling out Florida Field in 1979 when we were 0-10-1. I have trouble believing that, but for the UAA, we would not have the same football revenue. Maybe we should pull a Vandy, and bring all of athletics in-house. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
