Good point, Jerry. Nuke UM and USC football and UK basketball. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Belloit <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:15:51 To: <[email protected]> Reply-to: [email protected] Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Do We Really Want Miami To Get The Death Penalty? Rob, As I think about a school getting the death penalty, UM would be the likely profile. SMU while have some national exposure was still a relatively small operation. In many ways it is very similar in character to Miami. The only other schools to get death penalties since SMU (two others) were very small programs. Interestingly the first school to get the death penalty was the University of Kentucky Basketball team in 1952 involving paying players and players taking bribes for point shaving. More interestingly, the penalties were even more severe for the players. Not only was their college careers ended, the NBA (precursor) banned the players from the league for life. Jerry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Do We Really Want Miami To Get The Death Penalty? If the allegations in the Yahoo story are all true, then it is easily within the realm of what the death penalty is for. You'd have to ask, if this doesn't earn the death penalty, then exactly what DO you have to do? Run a drug trafficing cartel? Kidnap young girls and sell them into slavery? What? This is so egregious, so flauntingly out of control, so contemptuous if the rules the rest of us live by, that anything less would make a mockery of the NCAA and it's rules. Yet, despite what seems to me to be an obvious case, I will be amazed if the NCAA has the guts actually to pull the trigger. Rob Sent from my iPad On Aug 19, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Scott Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: I haven't said much about this as I have just been laying low and enjoying this unfold in south Florida. Most of my UM buddies wont talk about it or quickly change the subject. The part I find most disgraceful and disgusting, not to mention a full out slap in the face of the NCAA, is that Nevin had the nickname of Lil Luke. The name synonymous with their last major issue and beat down. They are smirking at the authority... I don't give a crap. Drop the hammer. Expose all these "fans" for what they are-- feel good, good times, crap talking, living in the past, people supporting a school that never did anything without violations associated to the rings. Screw UM. ScUM. L,S. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Steve McKibben <[email protected]> wrote: I told a co-worker this morning that if they got the death penalty, their "fan base"would just forget about football and move on to something else. I'd rather they just get crippling sanctions that would make them struggle to get to three wins every year - which currently, isn't that far of a fall anyway. We'd get more of the guys out of Miami that we really want, and the others can go cause trouble at FSU, USF, UCF, FIU, et. al. Steve McKibben _____ From: Jong <[email protected]> To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Do We Really Want Miami To Get The Death Penalty? There's been a lot of talk about the death penalty for Miami, and while I don't think the NCAA has enough spine to actually invoke it, I started thinking about what might happen in relation to the Gators. At SMU, I seem to recall that the players were allowed to transfer without penalty. I would assume it would happen in this case too. If so, I would expect to see more transfer to FSU or USF than UF. That would give FSU a solid pipeline in South Florida, and possibly make USF a major player in college football. FSU establishing a steady flow of talent from Miami could make them a national "it" team again. USF could start keeping more of the Tampa talent at home if they become the third of the Big 3. Neither situation plays out well for UF. While I would love to see scUM obliterated by the NCAA, I selfishly have to wonder whether it would be better for us if they just get serious scholarship reductions. While this would still redirect some players to other schools, there wouldn't be the wholesale diaspora, and long-term, it would be better for the Gators. What do you think? --Jong -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
