I've never heard about the UK basketball case (possibly because I wasn't alive yet), but it brings to mind something I have been thinking for awhile. People will not stop this behavior as long as it remains behind at the school where it occurred. Kiffin should be able to be penalized for what he did at UTK, UM's former AD should be held accountable even at his new school. If Hill did something wrong, he should be held accountable. Players should be responsible for their choices, even if they turn pro. As long as you can run away by finding a new job, you have no real incentive to really follow the rules. Maybe the NFL should follow the lead of the 1950s NBA. (Fat chance, but an interesting idea.)
Rob Sent from my iPad On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Jerry Belloit <[email protected]> wrote: > Rob, > > > > As I think about a school getting the death penalty, UM would be the likely > profile. SMU while have some national exposure was still a relatively small > operation. In many ways it is very similar in character to Miami. The only > other schools to get death penalties since SMU (two others) were very small > programs. > > > > Interestingly the first school to get the death penalty was the University of > Kentucky Basketball team in 1952 involving paying players and players taking > bribes for point shaving. More interestingly, the penalties were even more > severe for the players. Not only was their college careers ended, the NBA > (precursor) banned the players from the league for life. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Rob Alexander > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Do We Really Want Miami To Get The Death Penalty? > > > > If the allegations in the Yahoo story are all true, then it is easily within > the realm of what the death penalty is for. You'd have to ask, if this > doesn't earn the death penalty, then exactly what DO you have to do? Run a > drug trafficing cartel? Kidnap young girls and sell them into slavery? What? > This is so egregious, so flauntingly out of control, so contemptuous if the > rules the rest of us live by, that anything less would make a mockery of the > NCAA and it's rules. Yet, despite what seems to me to be an obvious case, I > will be amazed if the NCAA has the guts actually to pull the trigger. > > Rob > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Scott Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: > > I haven't said much about this as I have just been laying low and enjoying > this unfold in south Florida. Most of my UM buddies wont talk about it or > quickly change the subject. > > The part I find most disgraceful and disgusting, not to mention a full out > slap in the face of the NCAA, is that Nevin had the nickname of Lil Luke. The > name synonymous with their last major issue and beat down. They are smirking > at the authority... > > I don't give a crap. Drop the hammer. Expose all these "fans" for what they > are-- feel good, good times, crap talking, living in the past, people > supporting a school that never did anything without violations associated to > the rings. > > Screw UM. ScUM. > > L,S. > > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > Steve McKibben <[email protected]> wrote: > > I told a co-worker this morning that if they got the death penalty, their > "fan base"would just forget about football and move on to something else. > > > > I'd rather they just get crippling sanctions that would make them struggle to > get to three wins every year - which currently, isn't that far of a fall > anyway. > > > > We'd get more of the guys out of Miami that we really want, and the others > can go cause trouble at FSU, USF, UCF, FIU, et. al. > > > > Steve McKibben > > From: Jong <[email protected]> > To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:49 PM > Subject: [gatortalk] Do We Really Want Miami To Get The Death Penalty? > > There's been a lot of talk about the death penalty for Miami, and > while I don't think the NCAA has enough spine to actually invoke it, I > started thinking about what might happen in relation to the Gators. > > At SMU, I seem to recall that the players were allowed to transfer > without penalty. I would assume it would happen in this case too. If > so, I would expect to see more transfer to FSU or USF than UF. That > would give FSU a solid pipeline in South Florida, and possibly make > USF a major player in college football. FSU establishing a steady > flow of talent from Miami could make them a national "it" team again. > USF could start keeping more of the Tampa talent at home if they > become the third of the Big 3. Neither situation plays out well for > UF. > > While I would love to see scUM obliterated by the NCAA, I selfishly > have to wonder whether it would be better for us if they just get > serious scholarship reductions. While this would still redirect some > players to other schools, there wouldn't be the wholesale diaspora, > and long-term, it would be better for the Gators. > > What do you think? > > --Jong > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
