We will probably never know what really happened, but it's obvious that 
somebody knows enough to make the decisions that have been made recently.  You 
don't insist on the resignation of a coach who has been at your university 
since dinosaurs roamed the earth unless you know - and HE knows - something 
very wrong and horrifying happened.  Joe Paterno has already said he wishes he 
had done more.  He didn't just pull that out of his... er... hat.

McQueary is probably not a superbly reliable witness, given the different 
stories he has told.  Did you hear the phone call between Bob Costas and Jerry 
Sandusky?  A couple of my friends who work with abused children and their 
families said he sounded eerily similar to other perps they've encountered.  :-/

Cee
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sandy Alonso 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Penn State


  Have you heard he has now said in an email that he DID stop what was 
happening with Sandusky and the kid in the showers?   

  This story doesn't sound right, either.  

  "Hey, you!  Stop what you're doing to that kid!  Geez, Coach Sandusky, you 
shouldn't do stuff like that.  Okay, now you guys get dressed and Coach, you 
take this boy home while I go call my dad so he can tell me what to do next."

  ????



  On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Cecilia <[email protected]> wrote:

    PS - It doesn't surprise me that McQ did something that irked you before.  
He's supposedly quite a punk.

    Cee
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Sandy Alonso 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:50 AM
      Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Penn State


      Cee, 

      Whether your son has a tender heart or no, I'm glad to hear that he 
recognizes that something should have been done right then, right there. It's 
clear he is a well-raised young man. 

      You know,  I get it when people don't want to get involved in a situation 
where they might witness someone shoplifting or they see someone hit and run a 
parked car.  That's one thing (although I myself would get involved in both 
situations).  No one's actually being physically or emotionally injured.  This 
is rape!  And rape of a child, no less!   Good grief, was he more concerned 
that this "beloved" coach was doing wrong than concerned for the welfare of the 
boy?  I just can not get past the fact that he did not follow up when it 
appeared nothing had been done.   How could you not?  (And it's not like he 
wouldn't know - he was the witness, so you'd definitely know if a policeman or 
detective didn't come calling.)

      Your friend's perspective on McQueary is interesting.  I was just 
discussing this with my sister - I said, "I didn't realize until recently that 
the grad assistant who witnessed the rape was that big red-headed jerk on the 
Penn State coaching staff."  I can't recall what the situation was, but I 
recall him doing SOMETHING at the Outback Bowl this past January that really 
irritated me.  I don't know if he had made a gesture at some Gator players, or 
what, but I already didn't like the guy prior to this.  I like him even less, 
now.  Really, I will NOT be surprised if his coaching job was awarded as 
payment for a coverup.

      Sandy


      On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Cecilia <[email protected]> wrote:

        Sandy... this is exactly what my son said last night when we were 
discussing the issue.  He can't get over it.  He is just so disgusted that a 
bunch of grown men would keep this quiet for so long.  This is a man-child who 
can't even watch a TV show or movie in which a kid is being mistreated verbally 
so I know he has a tender heart, and the only times he ever got in trouble for 
fighting at school, he was taking up for some girl who was being harassed by a 
guy or guys.  I know he wouldn't just walk away from the scene Mike McQueary 
walked away from.  

        I am proud to know that Trevor realizes how reprehensible the behavior 
of all those involved has been.  It's disgusting.

        One of my best friends on the planet works at PSU (in fundraising... 
imagine how this is going to affect HER job) and was born, raised and has lived 
her entire life in State College, PA.  She went to high school with Mike 
McQueary, and she said he has always been a "shit head".  She doesn't know why 
he is still there either... or at least she is not telling if she does know.

        Cee
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Sandy Alonso 
          To: [email protected] 
          Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:51 PM
          Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Penn State


          Frankly, if I was a 28-year-old big burly guy like McQueary, I would 
have gone into those showers and beat the living tar out of Sandusky, right 
then and there.  



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