Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since
expired.
On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With
the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will
take that chance.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
<[email protected]> wrote:
I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to
spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the
NFL.
I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO
of course.
On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley
<[email protected]> wrote:
Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge. An assistant was hit with a
show cause but King Saban got off scott free. Chip Kelly would not have had a
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and
didn’t appeal the ruling.
I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there
are a variety of really good candidates. Each have their pros and cons, but
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
Ken
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Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
take that kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
Woody
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:
This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee.
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Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
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Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are
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https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating-
over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/
Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his
return
· By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017
Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working in
an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach
not to be on a sideline.
In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones
at Tennessee.
But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined
baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball
revealed last week.
It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had
left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to monitor" in
the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month
show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the NFL.
Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in
exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much.
That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was accused
of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to influence
players to sign with the shoe giant.
While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for decades,
the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into football. The
Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples that 7-on-7 is
becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, backroom deals being
struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high school coach further and
further out of the loop.
"I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and
influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. "The
service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I made a
mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong."
The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of God
into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly slowed
considerably for the moment.
The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how scared
college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At worst, guys
like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems finding work as a
new normal settles over compliance departments.
One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a coach
with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter what you
hired him for, he may have restrictions."
Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a
sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal.
The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires a
coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to his
new place of work.
How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier. Indiana fired basketball
coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made improper calls to recruits
for a second time. The NCAA rules have since been changed so that sort of
conduct wouldn't be a violation today.
Sampson currently coaches at Houston.
Florida Atlantic officials are looking into how such a show-cause penalty might
affect defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do his job. Lane
KIffin's brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the NCAA of violations
during his time with Rebels.
One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by FAU
officials.
Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got back into
college coaching.
In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. While a return to the
pros doesn't seem imminent, his college coaching rep remains burnished.
Woody
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