The SEC office has already cleared Florida to pursue Kelly.
This was completed last Friday.
I’m pretty sure that is where the first Kelly to Florida leaks started,
although I admittedly have no inside information to support that statement.
Ken Kirkley
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:58 PM -0500, "Woody" <[email protected]> wrote:
Won't happen. Not unless they have a stronger argument... which I doubt would
be the case. What could they really tell them that UF couldnt?
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Charles Simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on Kelly
but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A&M yes.
Charlie
On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:
You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as the old
Southwest conference.
There’s no way we’re going there again.
Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
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On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
<[email protected]> wrote:
Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can
stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
The NCAA one has yes. The SEC has a rule in place that if you ever have a
show-cause it has to go through Sankey
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
<[email protected]> wrote:
Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since
expired.
On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody <[email protected]>
wrote:
Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With
the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will
take that chance.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
<[email protected]> wrote:
I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to
spare the coaches that
he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the NFL.
I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO
of course.
On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <[email protected]>
wrote:
Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge. An assistant was hit with a
show cause but King Saban got off scott free. Chip Kelly would not have had a
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and
didn’t appeal the ruling.
I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there
are a variety of really good candidates. Each have their pros and cons, but
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
Ken
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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Gatortalk <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return -
CBSSports.com
Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
take that kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
Woody
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote:
This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee.
Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
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305 B Indian Lake Blvd
Suite 220
Hendersonville TN 37075
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615-826-4040
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Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
To:
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Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are
obstacles to his return -
CBSSports.com
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https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating-
over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/
Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his
return
· By
Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017
Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
Never mind the former
Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this
season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a
sideline.
In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones
at
Tennessee.
But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined
baggage
thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball revealed last
week.
It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had
left for the
Philadelphia Eagles. He was
slapped with "failure to monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even
worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in
abstentia -- after he went to the NFL.
Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in
exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks.
Lyles admitted as much.
That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was accused
of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to influence
players to sign with
the shoe giant.
While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for decades,
the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into football. The
Lyles case is the biggest
and one of the few public examples that 7-on-7 is becoming the football
version of AAU basketball. You know, backroom deals being struck with
prospects' handlers, cutting the high school coach further and further out of
the loop.
"I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and
influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. "The
service I provided went beyond
what a scouting service should. … I made a mistake, and I'm big enough of a
man to admit I was wrong."
The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of God
into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly slowed
considerably for the moment.
The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how scared
college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At worst, guys
like Kelly -- no matter
how talented -- might have problems finding work as a new normal settles over
compliance departments.
One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a coach
with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter what you
hired him for, he may
have restrictions."
Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a
sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal.
The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires a
coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to his
new place of work.
How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier.
Indiana fired basketball coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made
improper calls to recruits for a second time. The NCAA rules have since been
changed so that sort of conduct wouldn't be a violation today.
Sampson currently coaches at
Houston.
Florida Atlantic
officials are looking into how such a show-cause penalty might affect
defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do his job. Lane KIffin's
brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the NCAA of violations during his
time with Rebels.
One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by FAU
officials.
Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got back into
college coaching.
In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. While a return to the
pros doesn't seem imminent, his college coaching rep remains burnished.
Woody
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