The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on Kelly but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A&M yes. Charlie
On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote: You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as the old Southwest conference. There’s no way we’re going there again. Oliver Barry CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker PARKS Real Estate Services 305 B Indian Lake Blvd Suite 220 Hendersonville TN 37075 Office: 615-826-4040 Mobile: 615-972-4239 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA. What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation). On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The NCAA one has yes. The SEC has a rule in place that if you ever have a show-cause it has to go through Sankey On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since expired. On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will take that chance. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the NFL. I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO of course. On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge. An assistant was hit with a show cause but King Saban got off scott free. Chip Kelly would not have had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling. I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice. Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there are a variety of really good candidates. Each have their pros and cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice. Ken From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM To: Gatortalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com<http://CBSSports.com> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would take that kind of risk with his first major hire like that either. Woody On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. Oliver Barry CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker PARKS Real Estate Services 305 B Indian Lake Blvd<https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+BlvdSuite+220+Hendersonville+TN+37075+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> Suite 220<https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+BlvdSuite+220+Hendersonville+TN+37075+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> Hendersonville TN 37075<https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+BlvdSuite+220+Hendersonville+TN+37075+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> Office: <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+Blvd+Suite+220+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D305%2BB%2BIndian%2BLake%2BBlvdSuite%2B220%2BHendersonville%2BTN%2B37075%2BOffice:%2B615%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E+Hendersonville+TN+37075+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D305%2BB%2BIndian%2BLake%2BBlvdSuite%2B220%2BHendersonville%2BTN%2B37075%2BOffice:%2B615%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> 615-826-4040 Mobile: 615-972-4239 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Begin forwarded message: From: Woody Bass <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com<http://CBSSports.com> Reply-To: gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com<mailto:[email protected]> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating- over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/<https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-obstacles-to-his-return/> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return • By Dennis Dodd <https://www.cbssports.com/writers/dennis-dodd/> Oct 4, 2017 Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week. Never mind the former Oregon<https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/page/OREG/oregon-ducks> coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a sideline. In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones at Tennessee<https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/TENN/tennessee-volunteers>. But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball revealed last week<https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-sports-headed-for-reboot-in-midst-of-potentially-its-biggest-scandal-since-1950s/>. It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had left for the Philadelphia Eagles<https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/PHI/philadelphia-eagles>. He was slapped with "failure to monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair<https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/with-a-chance-to-send-a-message-ncaa-whiffs-in-oregon-case/>. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the NFL. Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much.<http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/Oregon-Football-NCAA-Report.pdf> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to influence players to sign with the shoe giant. While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples that 7-on-7 is becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, backroom deals being struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high school coach further and further out of the loop. "I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. "The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I made a mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong." The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of God into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly slowed considerably for the moment. The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how scared college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At worst, guys like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems finding work as a new normal settles over compliance departments. One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a coach with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter what you hired him for, he may have restrictions." Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal. The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires a coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to his new place of work. How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier. Indiana<https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/IND/indiana-hoosiers> fired basketball coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made improper calls to recruits for a second time. The NCAA rules have since been changed so that sort of conduct wouldn't be a violation today. Sampson currently coaches at Houston<https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/HOU/houston-cougars>. Florida Atlantic<https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/FAU/florida-atlantic-owls> officials are looking into how such a show-cause penalty might affect defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do his job. Lane KIffin's brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the NCAA of violations during his time with Rebels. One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by FAU officials. Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got back into college coaching. In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. While a return to the pros doesn't seem imminent, his college coaching rep remains burnished. 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