Won't happen. Not unless they have a stronger argument... which I doubt would be the case. What could they really tell them that UF couldnt?
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Charles Simpson <imaga...@outlook.com> wrote: > The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on > Kelly but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A&M yes. > Charlie > > On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry <bar...@realtracs.com> wrote: > >> You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as >> the old Southwest conference. >> There’s no way we’re going there again. >> >> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI >> Real Estate Broker >> PARKS Real Estate Services >> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+Blvd%0D+Suite+220+%0D+Hendersonville+TN+37075+%0D+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> >> Suite 220 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+Blvd%0D+Suite+220+%0D+Hendersonville+TN+37075+%0D+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> >> Hendersonville TN 37075 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+Blvd%0D+Suite+220+%0D+Hendersonville+TN+37075+%0D+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> >> Office: 615-826-4040 <(615)%20826-4040> >> Mobile: 615-972-4239 <(615)%20972-4239> >> bar...@realtracs.com >> >> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk < >> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC >> can stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA. >> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation). >> >> >> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody <gatorrr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> The NCAA one has yes. The SEC has a rule in place that if you ever have >> a show-cause it has to go through Sankey >> >> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk < >> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long >> since expired. >> >> >> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody < >> gatorrr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. >> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not >> sure he will take that chance. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk < >> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is >> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to >> his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the >> fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to >> coach in the NFL. >> >> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football >> coach. JMO of course. >> >> >> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley < >> k...@kirkley.net> wrote: >> >> >> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge. An assistant was hit >> with a show cause but King Saban got off scott free. Chip Kelly would not >> have had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to >> the Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling. >> >> >> >> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the >> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice. >> >> >> >> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, >> there are a variety of really good candidates. Each have their pros and >> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice. >> >> >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com >> <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Woody >> >> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM >> *To:* Gatortalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating >> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com >> >> >> >> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with >> what Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin >> would take that kind of risk with his first major hire like that either. >> >> >> >> Woody >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry <bar...@realtracs.com> >> wrote: >> >> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or >> Tennessee. >> >> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI >> >> Real Estate Broker >> >> PARKS Real Estate Services >> >> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+BlvdSuite+220+Hendersonville+TN+37075+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> Suite 220 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+BlvdSuite+220+Hendersonville+TN+37075+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> Hendersonville TN 37075 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+BlvdSuite+220+Hendersonville+TN+37075+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> Office: >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=305+B+Indian+Lake+Blvd+Suite+220+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D305%2BB%2BIndian%2BLake%2BBlvdSuite%2B220%2BHendersonville%2BTN%2B37075%2BOffice:%2B615%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E+Hendersonville+TN+37075+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D305%2BB%2BIndian%2BLake%2BBlvdSuite%2B220%2BHendersonville%2BTN%2B37075%2BOffice:%2B615%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E+Office:+615&entry=gmail&source=g> >> 615-826-4040 >> >> Mobile: 615-972-4239 >> >> bar...@realtracs.com >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From:* Woody Bass <gatorrr...@gmail.com> >> *Date:* November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST >> *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* *[gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but >> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com <http://CBSSports.com>* >> *Reply-To:* gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com >> <gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ >> programs-may-be-salivating- over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- >> obstacles-to-his-return/ >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-obstacles-to-his-return/> >> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to >> his return >> >> · By Dennis Dodd <https://www.cbssports.com/writers/dennis-dodd/>Oct 4, >> 2017 >> >> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week. >> >> Never mind the former Oregon >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/page/OREG/oregon-ducks> >> coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this >> season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a >> sideline. >> >> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch >> Jones at Tennessee >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/TENN/tennessee-volunteers>. >> >> >> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly >> defined baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college >> basketball revealed last week >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-sports-headed-for-reboot-in-midst-of-potentially-its-biggest-scandal-since-1950s/> >> . >> >> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after >> he had left for the Philadelphia Eagles >> <https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/PHI/philadelphia-eagles>. He >> was slapped with "failure to monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/with-a-chance-to-send-a-message-ncaa-whiffs-in-oregon-case/>. >> Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in >> abstentia -- after he went to the NFL. >> >> Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in >> exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much. >> <http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/Oregon-Football-NCAA-Report.pdf> >> >> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was >> accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants >> to influence players to sign with the shoe giant. >> >> While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for >> decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into >> football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples >> that 7-on-7 is becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, >> backroom deals being struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high >> school coach further and further out of the loop. >> >> "I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access >> and influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. >> "The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I >> made a mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong." >> >> The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of >> God into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly >> slowed considerably for the moment. >> >> The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how >> scared college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At >> worst, guys like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems >> finding work as a new normal settles over compliance departments. >> >> One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a >> coach with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter >> what you hired him for, he may have restrictions." >> >> Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a >> sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal. >> >> The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires >> a coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to >> his new place of work. >> >> How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier. Indiana >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/IND/indiana-hoosiers> >> fired basketball coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made >> improper calls to recruits for a second time. The NCAA rules have since >> been changed so that sort of conduct wouldn't be a violation today. >> >> Sampson currently coaches at Houston >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/HOU/houston-cougars>. >> >> >> Florida Atlantic >> <https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/page/FAU/florida-atlantic-owls> >> officials are looking into how such a show-cause penalty might affect >> defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do his job. Lane KIffin's >> brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the NCAA of violations during >> his time with Rebels. >> >> One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by >> FAU officials. >> >> Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got back >> into college coaching. >> >> In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. 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