Well I think the report he was being vetted is likely more accurate than any negotiating going on right now.
Woody > On Nov 14, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Rob Alexander <[email protected]> wrote: > > What you and Steve said ring true. We wouldn’t invest in the negotiations > without getting the league approval first. My guess is that we would never > know if the SEC didn’t approve it (beyond rumors) because we wouldn’t > announce it; we would just hire someone else. > > I’m not speaking to whether we actually are going for Kelly... that’s still > just rumor... but if we do, then we will have already cleared it with the SEC > beforehand. The more I have read about the Oregon situation, the less it > bothers me about him personally. I will assume they are doing their due > diligence and if they hire him, that they are satisfied he will run a clean > program. > > I’d be happy with the hire. I think Frost carries a higher upside for a > lifetime legacy coach, though greater risk of failure, but Kelly and Frost > are both the kind of exciting hire we need right now... especially if we want > to save this recruiting class. > > Rob > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 13, 2017, at 8:02 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> The SEC office has already cleared Florida to pursue Kelly. This was >> completed last Friday. >> >> I’m pretty sure that is where the first Kelly to Florida leaks started, >> although I admittedly have no inside information to support that statement. >> >> Ken Kirkley >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:58 PM -0500, "Woody" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Won't happen. Not unless they have a stronger argument... which I doubt >>> would be the case. What could they really tell them that UF couldnt? >>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Charles Simpson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on >>>> Kelly but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A&M yes. >>>> Charlie >>>> >>>>> On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as >>>>> the old Southwest conference. >>>>> There’s no way we’re going there again. >>>>> >>>>> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI >>>>> Real Estate Broker >>>>> PARKS Real Estate Services >>>>> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd >>>>> Suite 220 >>>>> Hendersonville TN 37075 >>>>> Office: 615-826-4040 >>>>> Mobile: 615-972-4239 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC >>>>>> can stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA. >>>>>> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The NCAA one has yes. The SEC has a rule in place that if you ever >>>>>> have a show-cause it has to go through Sankey >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long >>>>>> since expired. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is >>>>>> Kelly. With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I >>>>>> am not sure he will take that chance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is >>>>>> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led >>>>>> to his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take >>>>>> the fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went >>>>>> to coach in the NFL. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football >>>>>> coach. JMO of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge. An assistant was hit >>>>>> with a show cause but King Saban got off scott free. Chip Kelly would >>>>>> not have had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his >>>>>> way to the Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the >>>>>> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, >>>>>> there are a variety of really good candidates. Each have their pros and >>>>>> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Woody >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM >>>>>> To: Gatortalk <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating >>>>>> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with >>>>>> what Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think >>>>>> Stricklin would take that kind of risk with his first major hire like >>>>>> that either. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Woody >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or >>>>>> Tennessee. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI >>>>>> >>>>>> Real Estate Broker >>>>>> >>>>>> PARKS Real Estate Services >>>>>> >>>>>> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd >>>>>> >>>>>> Suite 220 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hendersonville TN 37075 >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 615-826-4040 >>>>>> >>>>>> Mobile: 615-972-4239 >>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Woody Bass <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but >>>>>> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com >>>>>> Reply-To: gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ >>>>>> programs-may-be-salivating- over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- >>>>>> obstacles-to-his-return/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to >>>>>> his return >>>>>> · By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017 >>>>>> >>>>>> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while >>>>>> working in an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly >>>>>> is the best coach not to be on a sideline. >>>>>> >>>>>> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch >>>>>> Jones at Tennessee. >>>>>> >>>>>> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly >>>>>> defined baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college >>>>>> basketball revealed last week. >>>>>> >>>>>> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after >>>>>> he had left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to >>>>>> monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed >>>>>> an 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he >>>>>> went to the NFL. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, >>>>>> in exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was >>>>>> accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball >>>>>> assistants to influence players to sign with the shoe giant. >>>>>> >>>>>> While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for >>>>>> decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into >>>>>> football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public >>>>>> examples that 7-on-7 is becoming the football version of AAU basketball. >>>>>> You know, backroom deals being struck with prospects' handlers, cutting >>>>>> the high school coach further and further out of the loop. >>>>>> >>>>>> "I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access >>>>>> and influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this >>>>>> decade. "The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service >>>>>> should. … I made a mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was >>>>>> wrong." >>>>>> >>>>>> The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of >>>>>> God into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have >>>>>> reportedly slowed considerably for the moment. >>>>>> >>>>>> The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how >>>>>> scared college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At >>>>>> worst, guys like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems >>>>>> finding work as a new normal settles over compliance departments. >>>>>> >>>>>> One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a >>>>>> coach with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no >>>>>> matter what you hired him for, he may have restrictions." >>>>>> >>>>>> Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a >>>>>> sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal. >>>>>> >>>>>> The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school >>>>>> hires a coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the >>>>>> accused to his new place of work. >>>>>> >>>>>> How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier. Indiana fired >>>>>> basketball coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made improper >>>>>> calls to recruits for a second time. The NCAA rules have since been >>>>>> changed so that sort of conduct wouldn't be a violation today. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sampson currently coaches at Houston. >>>>>> >>>>>> Florida Atlantic officials are looking into how such a show-cause >>>>>> penalty might affect defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do >>>>>> his job. Lane KIffin's brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the >>>>>> NCAA of violations during his time with Rebels. >>>>>> >>>>>> One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by >>>>>> FAU officials. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got >>>>>> back into college coaching. >>>>>> >>>>>> In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. While a return to >>>>>> the pros doesn't seem imminent, his college coaching rep remains >>>>>> burnished. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Woody >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | >>>>>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >>>>>> (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorNews" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to gatornews+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to gatortalk+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to gatortalk+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to gatortalk+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ optout. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to gatortalk+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to gatortalk+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ optout. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to gatortalk+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "GatorTalk" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>>>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>>>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>>>> 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve >>>>> Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "GatorTalk" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 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