I receievd he below post from Allan Salzberg today. Thought it would
interest many here.


Association of Reptilian and Amphibian Veterinarians Response to HSUS
Proposal for Ban on Reptile Pets.

November 10, 2001

To the editor,

We are writing in response to the recent publication by the Humane Society
of the United States (HSUS), "Reptiles as Pets: An Examination of the Trade
in Live Reptiles in the United States."  While we applaud HSUS for
highlighting many of the problems associated with the trade in live
reptiles, we cannot agree with their conclusion that the reptile trade must
be ended, and that the sale of reptiles as pets should be banned.
Maintaining captive reptiles can be a rewarding, educational experience, and
in some cases may have significant conservation value. Problems associated
with the reptile pet trade have been noted by conservation biologists,
herpetologists, and veterinarians for decades. These problems include, but
are not limited to, zoonotic diseases such as Salmonellosis, damage to wild
populations of rare species due to over-collection, introduction of
non-native species or exotic diseases, and animal welfare issues regarding
transportation of reptiles and survival of reptiles in captivity. These are
serious concerns; however, such problems can be overcome by effective
education, legislation, and research.
 Caring for a captive reptile, like caring for any animal, can provide an
understanding of the organism that can be achieved in no other way. It may
pique one's curiosity, leading to further, more advanced study. Most
professional herpetologists, reptile veterinarians, reptile curators, etc.
report that maintaining reptiles as pets was an influential part of their
childhood and may have guided their career choice. As habitat loss and
urbanization continue, maintaining captive reptiles may provide one's only
exposure to these organisms. Individuals that maintain captive reptiles are
likely to be more concerned with local, regional, and global reptile
conservation issues than individuals that have never seen or touched a live
reptile. In her recent book "Why the Wild Things Are: Animals in the Lives
of Children", psychologist Gail Melson investigates the potential benefit
that animals may provide in childhood development. While the field is
largely unexplored, Melson suggests that pets may play a role in the
development of nurturing skills, compassion, affection, and "may function as
a meaning system through which children make sense of both themselves and
their surrounding environments."  We believe that these theories are true,
and that owning a corn snake as a child can be as developmentally important
as owning a dog. Obviously, good judgement on the part of a responsible
adult is needed, and one must ensure that children caring for reptiles are
mature enough to provide proper care and hygiene for the animal, while
maintaining their own safety from zoonotic disease.
 Owning a reptile requires a commitment of time and money as with any pet.
It also requires that an appropriate animal be chosen for a given
circumstance, and that ethical concerns be addressed. It is no more
reasonable to think that a large aggressive reptile will be a good pet than
to think that a large aggressive dog will be a good pet. It is no more
reasonable to expect an ill, dehydrated, imported reptile to adapt to
captivity than to expect a parasitized, parvovirus-infected puppy from a
poor source to thrive in its new home. There are a number of species of
reptiles now available in the pet trade that are born in captivity, remain
relatively small, have known husbandry requirements, and can be obtained in
healthy condition from reputable sources. Examples of species in this
category are bearded dragons, leopard geckos, corn snakes, milk snakes, ball
pythons, and Mediterranean tortoises.
 Salmonella is a well-known zoonotic disease associated with keeping captive
reptiles. Human fatalities do occur from reptile-associated Salmonellosis.
However, we are well aware of the risk of zoonotic disease associated with
owning dogs, cats, birds, horses, etc, as well as the threat of fatal trauma
induced by some dogs or horses. An estimated three to four million dog bites
occur each year in the US, half of which involve children.  Salmonella is
just one of dozens of zoonotic diseases we may get from our pets. Should we
avoid owning all animals to prevent zoonoses? The risk of Salmonellosis can
be reduced by following guidelines established by the Centers for Disease
Control (CDC) and the Association of Reptilian and Amphibian Veterinarians
(ARAV), which are available from the ARAV.
 Decreasing the massive importation and exportation of reptiles may be
desirable, particularly for species whose post-importation survival is known
to be poor. As an example, we know that hingeback tortoises (Kinixys spp.),
that were imported by the thousands from Africa in the past decade, do very
poorly in captivity, as do many, many other species. Ending the trade in
such species would likely be met with little resistance, and is becoming
more practical as more captive-born animals of other species become
available However, we are not in favor of complete shut-down of the
international reptile trade.  There are many very motivated, dedicated
private reptile keepers that have made tremendous contributions to
herpetological taxonomy, husbandry techniques, and conservation based on the
availability of imported animals. As an example, the endangered radiated
tortoise (Geochelone radiata) from Madagascar was first bred in the US by a
private individual in the 1970's. The progeny of this individual's group
formed the basis of much of the captive-breeding program for this species
later adopted by zoos throughout the country. More recently, the world's
known population of the endangered McCord's box turtle (Cuora mccordi) has
been nearly doubled by the breeding groups of private individuals.
Completely eliminating the availability of imported specimens may prevent
the development of captive assurance colonies of species that are being
driven to extinction in their native habitats. While collection for the pet
trade has undoubtedly damaged some species populations, habitat destruction
and consumption in the international food trade remain the most significant
threats to most reptile species.
 Concerns regarding the welfare of animals in transit and in captivity are
valid. Improper shipping techniques and improper husbandry can result in
mortality. However, I believe that the best approach to this is not to stop
the trade in reptiles, but to work to constantly improve shipping
regulations, inspections, penalties for violations, and dissemination of
proper husbandry information. We have developed techniques to allow the
humane movement of other species, and such techniques can be developed for
reptiles. This may involve decreasing the numbers of animals moved in a
given shipment, and may mean that prices of animals will increase; but such
changes may be inevitable if the demand for healthy, ethically shipped
animals increases. Husbandry techniques have improved greatly in the past
decade and many excellent texts exist for most of the commonly kept
reptiles. Owners that do not provide adequate husbandry simply have not done
their research.  This should not motivate a ban on reptile pets any more
than the dog owner who calls their veterinarian on the day their bitch
whelps and asks "what do I do?" should motivate a ban on dog ownership.
 Finally, regarding the issue of the introduction of exotic disease by
imported reptiles, we are quite concerned. It is clear that the potential
for exotic disease entering the US with reptiles exists. The case of African
tortoises imported to Florida, found to be infected with ticks carrying the
causative agent of Heartwater disease, brought this risk to the attention of
many interested parties. However, this is another situation where research,
rather than banishment, is needed. Since the original incident, and
stimulated by the incident, an effective and safe acaracide has been
identified for use in tortoises. By thinking about the problems, identifying
risks, and increasing the vigilance of monitoring, it is possible to
discover and address previously unrecognized diseases. If certain diseases
are found that cannot be controlled, then an importation ban on the involved
reptile species may be warranted.
 In conclusion, we believe that reptiles should be available as pets. It is
desirable to greatly reduce the large-scale sale and importation of reptiles
in favor of supporting the more selective sale of domestically bred reptiles
of relatively easy to maintain species. The path to this end will involve
participation of many groups, but at the forefront should be individual
state governments. State governments have control over allowing collection
of native animals, as well as which species may be sold in pet stores. In
the past, many states have taken the approach of banning a few undesirable
species, while allowing the sale of all other species. Perhaps states should
consider instead allowing the sale of only certain species that have been
captive bred and have known husbandry requirements. Provisions for more
serious keepers to obtain permits to maintain restricted species could be
issued based on guidelines established by each state. We encourage the
veterinary and herpetological communities to voice their dissent to the
conclusions of the HSUS Live Reptile Trade report.

Sincerely,

Charles J. Innis, VMD
President, Association of Reptilian and Amphibian Veterinarians

Teresa Bradley. DVM
Belton, MO

Mark Mitchell, DVM, PhD
Louisiana State University

Elliot Jacobson, DVM, PhD, DACZM
University of Florida

Dale DeNardo, DVM, PhD
University of Arizona

Kevin Wright, DVM
Phoenix, AZ

William Griswold, DVM
Tempe, AZ

Lyle Puente
PO Box 438
Crompond, NY 10517
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