Thanks for your response...just wondering as to what you meant by having "a modified ascid fast stain run on the feces 1, 3 or even 5 times." Never heard of that before. And what does it do?
also so you're saying that pins are really hard to eliminate even with thorough cleaning every day? So should i toss out my tanks? What if i wanted to put another leo in it some other time, would they be infected even though i had thorougly disinfected it?
And you say that blood tests are no good?
Thanks again
-Sam
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Subj: Re: [gecko]Pinworms in Leo Gex
Date: 7/1/2003 2:42:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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>Hi All,
>I just got the test results of two fecal samples of two different
>female adult leos that i got come in today. They have pinworms.
>Treatment for them will begin tomorrow afternoon by a specialist
>reptile vet in my area
no such thing as a reptile specialist.
>. I have read that in almost all herbivores such as an iguana that
>pinworms are present,
largely true
>which is known to be helpful for them in breaking down cellulose etc,
not known, thought by a few interesting souls, but unlikely in any event.
>and that it's not harmful if there isn't a huge abundance of pinworms
>in them
fairly true
>. Therefore I was wondering if the pinworms in my leo gex are
>detrimental to their health or not. The vet says they should be
>treated for it, but i'm not sure if they're just money hungry or
>whether if they're telling me the truth.
Depends - there are instances where pins can be a problem - they have a
direct life cycle and can build in numbers. As long as you are not
draconian about it treatment is not unreasonable.
>A little about my two leos. One's a normal phase female adult leo, the
>other is a patternless adult female leo.
>They have lost a lot of their appetite for a while now, their stools
>are runny, and they're almost always in their hide caves.
I would strongly urge you to ahve a modified ascid fast stain run on the
feces 1, 3 or even 5 times.
>One is alone in a 33 gallon tank, and the other in a 10 gallon, all
>with paper towel as substrate, a couple of hide boxes with one being
>humid hide, 24hr heat source at 88*F on warm side and 80*F on cool
>side. Fresh water given daily and their cage cleaned and thoroughly
>disinfected weekly.
If you are finding pins, and especially when treating them I would clean
like a feind, as in daily. It will help somewhat - but they are very
very hard to eliminate.
>Any help as to whether if pinworms are detrimental to leo gex's health
>would be great.
A few, seen now and again are unlikely to cause a problem. Stress or
disease or buildup of numbers couls account for some pathology. it
would not be a bad idea to do a few more fecals and determine if this is
the only problem.
>The vet is also suggesting blood work just incase this is not the
>cause of the leos prob
Not an easy blood draw.
>. Which made me doubt her opinion as to whether if the pinworms are
>really that bad.
How did you connect her desire for a blood sample to the pathogenicity
of the pins?
Keith
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