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Hi,
I just wanted to thank everyone for the great
advice and information. Sadly, Lucky didn't make it. We will miss her very
much. In the short time she was here she touched many of us. At least she is no
longer suffering. The advice and information I received from this list is
greatly appreciated, I am only sorry I didn't come here sooner, so thank you
everyone who responded to my message.
I'm now faced with putting her tank and furniture
away, or getting rid of it. Since I don't know what she died of would it be
better to get rid of her things, or is there a safe way to disinfect
them?
Elizabeth - It never occurred to me to bring up
some of those points to store managers when explaining about the problems with
sand. I will certainly keep them in mind next time I am at the pet store.
Thanks again,
Diana
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:32
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Subject: Re: forward: [gecko]sick leopard
gecko
Hi Diana---
You are so
welcome!
I don't know if it's worth a try, but you might take a shot
at explaining to your pet store manager what happens to young leopard geckos
kept on sand. The longer their pets live the longer folks will be buying
supplies and crickets from them. If someone has a good experience with
their first gecko, hopefully they might be interested in branching out.
Good to hear about the product Jumpstart. I was using a "slurry"
of Reptile Fare which my vet gave me. Ultimately, however, River began
to regurgitate it. I do wonder whether River had crypto. He/she
was a classroom gecko.
Wonder about the size of the leopards that
Julie successfully rescued.
Do keep us posted on Lucky's progress?
Has she gained any weight?
Elizabeth
Subj: Re: forward: [gecko]sick leopard gecko
Date:
3/31/04 11:08:38 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Hi Elizabeth!
Thanks so much for all the
info, its a very big help. Unfortunately the pet store keeps all of their
geckos on sand. Personally I prefer to keep even my older leopard's on paper
towel, but at least "Lucky" has been defacting normally, so I don't feel
impaction from the sand is an issue. I appreciate the info very much, I plan
on having an acid fast fecal stain done ASAP.
Thanks so much.
Diana
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Sent: Wednesday,
March 31, 2004 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: forward: [gecko]sick
leopard gecko
Hi Diana---
Perhaps my experience will help you. Catriona, a vet tech on
this list, recommended an acid fast fecal stain for cryptosporidia
for River, my rescue leopard gecko, who died last fall.
Your
little leopard sounds like she is doing quite poorly. So sorry.
Had the pet store kept her on paper towels? Only paper towels
or reptile carpet is recommended for leopards under one year old.
Elizabeth
Subj: Re: [gecko]Catriona: Adult Leopard 8" long, only
17.5 gms! Update......
Date: 11/16/03 9:22:41 AM Pacific
Standard Time
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Hi Elizabeth,
I am sorry to here that you lost
River. I know you did all you could for her.
To answer your question.
Cryptosporidia is a type of coccidia. It is transmitted in feces. I
suspect that many of the Leopard geckos in collections have this
parasite. I think the geckos do ok with this parasite, until they get
either stressed or just have too much of a parasite load. I see the most
problems in young leopard geckos or very old leopard geckos.
The problem with cyrpto is that
a regular fecal exam will not show if the gecko has the parasite. You
have to have an acid fast stain done or a necropsy. Then on top of that
there really is no cure for the parasite. Treatments can make the animal
more comfortable, but will not eradicate the crypto.
Catriona
At 02:02 AM 11/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Catriona---
Thanks for your input here.
If I'd have known about an acid fast stain for crypto I'd have
had one run. How do leopard geckos get crypto?
River passed away shortly after midnight on October 5th at
scarcely 13.5 grams. I did my best for her with the
information that I had, but it was scarcely enough. A couple
oxyrid eggs were found in the fecal float and the fecal C & S was
within normal limits. The vet also sent out a fecal sample which
showed moderate mixed enteric flora. No aeromonas species, no
salmonella species, and no pseudomonas aeruginosa were isolated.
Thank you for your assistance, Catriona.
Elizabeth
Subj: Re:
[gecko]Urgent: Adult Leopard 8" long, only 17.5 gms! Update......
Date: 10/23/03 10:04:35 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Hi Elizabeth,
If this gecko has lost so much
weight that you are concerned about its health, then I would do an
acid fast stain. Crypto geckos look emaciated and have thin tails.
Catriona
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