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Elizabeth,
I was really hoping she would pull through. It is
very sad, I keep glancing over at her tank expecting to see her napping over the
UTH or climbing on her hide. Unfortunately, you know what it feels like too. I
think a little education could go a long way in preventing this kind of thing. I
do have three other leopard geckos. One is a female hypo tang. The other
two are male & female blizzards, they are both rescues like Lucky. They both
made a full recovery though. The female blizzard was gravid when I bought her
(that was a big surprise), she's currently getting ready to lay her second
clutch (lotsa digging these days). I was honestly hoping Lucky would join the
other rescues, and live a long, healthy life. At least now her suffering is
done.
Thanks for the cleaning advice. I had some wood
hides in there, would baking those get them good and disinfected or am I better
off just getting rid of them? Someone told me to boil the wood, but I think the
wood would get funny after that.
Thanks so much!
Diana
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Subject: Re: forward: [gecko]sick leopard
gecko
Hi Diana---
So very sorry
to hear that Lucky has died. I know how sad you must be. You gave
her the best of chances and a lotta love. I wish that every gecko was as
fortunate as Lucky, but also that more folks were knowledgeable so that she
did not end up in this state to begin with. (I did check out your photo
of Lucky in her skinny state.)
[When River saw the vet, he said that
he did not feel any impaction.]
It seems to me that if you sterilize
all with a 10% bleach solution that you will be safe using her cage and
furniture again. Just be certain to air things out before adding any new
gecko.
Have you other geckos?
May Lucky rest in peace,
Elizabeth
Subj: Re: forward: [gecko]sick leopard gecko
Date:
4/1/04 11:29:33 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Hi,
I just wanted to thank
everyone for the great advice and information. Sadly, Lucky didn't make it.
We will miss her very much. In the short time she was here she touched many
of us. At least she is no longer suffering. The advice and information I
received from this list is greatly appreciated, I am only sorry I didn't
come here sooner, so thank you everyone who responded to my
message.
I'm now
faced with putting her tank and furniture away, or getting rid of it. Since
I don't know what she died of would it be better to get rid of her things,
or is there a safe way to disinfect them?
Elizabeth - It never occurred
to me to bring up some of those points to store managers when explaining
about the problems with sand. I will certainly keep them in mind next time I
am at the pet store.
Thanks again,
Diana
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Subject: Re: forward: [gecko]sick
leopard gecko
Hi Diana---
You
are so welcome!
I don't know if it's worth a try, but you might
take a shot at explaining to your pet store manager what happens to young
leopard geckos kept on sand. The longer their pets live the longer
folks will be buying supplies and crickets from them. If someone has
a good experience with their first gecko, hopefully they might be
interested in branching out.
Good to hear about the product
Jumpstart. I was using a "slurry" of Reptile Fare which my vet gave
me. Ultimately, however, River began to regurgitate it. I do
wonder whether River had crypto. He/she was a classroom gecko.
Wonder about the size of the leopards that Julie successfully
rescued.
Do keep us posted on Lucky's progress? Has she
gained any weight?
Elizabeth
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Date: 3/31/04 11:08:38 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Hi
Elizabeth!
Thanks so much for all the
info, its a very big help. Unfortunately the pet store keeps all of
their geckos on sand. Personally I prefer to keep even my older
leopard's on paper towel, but at least "Lucky" has been defacting
normally, so I don't feel impaction from the sand is an issue. I
appreciate the info very much, I plan on having an acid fast fecal stain
done ASAP.
Thanks so
much.
Diana
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Hi Diana---
Perhaps my experience will help you. Catriona, a vet
tech on this list, recommended an acid fast fecal stain for
cryptosporidia for River, my rescue leopard gecko, who died last fall.
Your little leopard sounds like she is doing quite poorly.
So sorry. Had the pet store kept her on paper towels?
Only paper towels or reptile carpet is recommended for leopards
under one year old.
Elizabeth
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[gecko]Catriona: Adult Leopard 8" long, only 17.5 gms!
Update......
Date: 11/16/03 9:22:41 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Hi Elizabeth,
I am sorry to here that you lost
River. I know you did all you could for her.
To answer your question.
Cryptosporidia is a type of coccidia. It is transmitted in feces. I
suspect that many of the Leopard geckos in collections have this
parasite. I think the geckos do ok with this parasite, until they get
either stressed or just have too much of a parasite load. I see the
most problems in young leopard geckos or very old leopard geckos.
The problem with cyrpto is that a
regular fecal exam will not show if the gecko has the parasite. You
have to have an acid fast stain done or a necropsy. Then on top of
that there really is no cure for the parasite. Treatments can make the
animal more comfortable, but will not eradicate the crypto.
Catriona
At 02:02 AM 11/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Catriona---
Thanks for your input here.
If I'd have known about an acid fast stain for crypto I'd have
had one run. How do leopard geckos get crypto?
River passed away shortly after midnight on October 5th at
scarcely 13.5 grams. I did my best for her with the
information that I had, but it was scarcely enough. A couple
oxyrid eggs were found in the fecal float and the fecal C & S was
within normal limits. The vet also sent out a fecal sample which
showed moderate mixed enteric flora. No aeromonas species, no
salmonella species, and no pseudomonas aeruginosa were isolated.
Thank you for your assistance, Catriona.
Elizabeth
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[gecko]Urgent: Adult Leopard 8" long, only 17.5 gms! Update......
Date: 10/23/03 10:04:35 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Hi Elizabeth,
If this gecko has lost so much weight that
you are concerned about its health, then I would do an acid fast
stain. Crypto geckos look emaciated and have thin tails.
Catriona
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