Anyone who tells you they can accurately sex R. ciliatus at ages less than 6 months old is either blowing smoke or they've found something the rest of us haven't!!! Since most breeders see a 4:1 ratio of male:female, telling you it's male is a good bet. I've had animals that looked female at 8-9 months old that turned male almost overnight!!! If it's truly a female, that's great. You can call her Georgina!!! I wouldn't worry too much about housing them together. I don't usually see sexual behavior much before they are one year old. If the male is constantly harassing the "female", separate them at that point. Of course, if they are clutch mates or even from the same bloodline, you might want to separate them if George is really female. Two males can be kept together as long as there isn't a female present to get them fighting.

Dana wrote:

Hi All -
To continue on R. ciliatus behavior, I have yet another question that ties in with this last one. I have 2 juvenile R. ciliatus housed together - I am not sure how old they are, but I suspect one is 5-6 months old and the other is probably 7-9 months old (I am a newbie so these are just guesses - their weights as of last week were: 12.5g and 15.1g. The older one is clearly a male, but the other I am not so sure about - there is only a small bulge so far so I'm thinking it might be a female (we were told it was a male when we got it, but I'm not so sure now - we already named him/her George - oh well). I am wondering if I need to worry about them mating prematurely if they are indeed male & female. Should I separate them? I hate to separate them because they do seem to get along quite well.
- Thanks in advance for any advice,
Dana
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:56:31 -0700
From: Doug Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gecko]? on male R. cliliatus temperament
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Catriona...

Most of my females have small bulges under the tails. Compared to the
males very obvious bulge, it is almost nonexistent. This is one reason I
won't guarantee sex of R. ciliatus until they are about 1 year old...
animals with small almost nonexistent bulges (and therefore assumed to
be female) have the nasty habit of growing huge bulges almost
overnight!!! If the animal you got from me at last year's Frog Day still
only has a very small bulge, it is definitely female! Congrats!!! Of
course, if it is really a male and being dominated by your other male, I
suppose it could have it's development arrested. Two males would likely
get along OK if there was no female present. It's most likely a female,
though. See... I'm just as confused as you!!!

Sorry to hear Brian was in a car wreck. Hopefully the trip won't tire
him overmuch!!! See you then.

Catriona Lindsay wrote:

        Thanks for the info Doug. I thought rachy males were pretty
aggressive, so if I decide to take on the pair then I'll I will house
the other male separately. I'll just have to keep an eye on the
females. My pair still has their tails.
        Here is another R. ciliatus question for you. Do the females
have any bulge under their tail? Caresheets make it sound like they do
not. My female is about 3/4 the size of the male and she does have a
bulge at the base of her tail. It is not as large as the males. This
pair has been together for almost a year with no fighting, but the
female was immature when added to the tank. My friend who wants to
give up her pair, says that her female has no bulge at all. I have
only found one picture of a females vent on the web, and it had a
pretty noticeable bulge also. Is this normal or have I missexed this
animal? BTW this animal is your baby from last years Frog Day.



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