Yes, that is correct.  Accessing the boot loader out on the PIO bus should work 
just fine assuming it maps to a different physical address space than DRAM.  
Also Andrew's observations definitely jive with my expectations.  Currently 
Ruby does not support discontinuous address spaces.

Brad




> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:gem5-dev-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Saidi
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:24 AM
> To: gem5 Developer List
> Subject: Re: [gem5-dev] Review Request: ARM: Enable Ruby functionality
> with ARM FS
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> The boot loader we used is only a couple of KB, so it doesn't need to be that
> big, but what I read into Brad's comment was that we could execute the boot
> loader if it was attached to a ROM outside of main memory as long as we
> didn't care about the Ruby timing. Brad, did I get that right? In this case
> couldn't we run the boot loader out of a simple memory connected to a pio
> bus only use Ruby for the contiguous memory?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ali
> 
> 
> On 5/24/12 6:22 PM, "Andrew Cebulski" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >The 172 MB was simply because that's the only way I can see to get Ruby
> >to find the boot loader ROM...by moving it from the higher address
> >space to the lower.  I left out that the boot loader ROM is 64MB,
> >therefore I had to shrink the DRAM by 64MB.  Basically, it seems Ruby
> >supports multiple contiguous address spaces, just not discontiguous.
> >Is there something I am missing with regards to the ROM...maybe it
> >doesn't need to be 64MB?
> >
> >-Andrew
> >
> >On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ali Saidi <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 24.05.2012 15:23, Beckmann, Brad wrote:
> >>
> >> > Sorry for the much
> >> delayed response here. I've been too selective reading the gem5-dev
> >> list lately.
> >> >
> >> > So if I understand correctly, the ARM FS boot loader maps
> >> to some higher portion of the address space and you would like to
> >> model the accesses to this boot loader ROM through Ruby. Is that
> >> correct? I'm a bit confused with the comment that the maximum memory
> >> supported by Ruby is 172 MB. That certainly is not true.
> >>
> >> This isn't true, but what
> >> I'm not understating is why it was done in the first place.
> >>
> >> > So it
> >> appears from the patch that the CPU accesses to the boot loader don't
> >> go thru Ruby, but rather go through the pio bus. Only the dma reads
> >> and writes from the boot loader go through Ruby. Does that analysis
> >> seem correct to you? Without testing the patch myself, I can't say
> >> for sure, but think that is what's happening here. If you view the
> >> boot loader accesses as being non-performance critical, then the
> >> current simple solution is how I would do it. However, if want *all*
> >> those accesses going through Ruby, then Ruby will have to support
> >> multiple address spaces.
> >>
> >> That is a reasonable solution, provided that it works. The boot
> >> loader is only executed in during boot and nominally ~10 instructions
> >> per CPU, so it shouldn't be critical. The only issue is getting
> >> gem5/ruby/cpus/etc to start executing code out of something on the
> >> pio bus and the transition to ruby. Brad, do you believe that this
> >> should work?
> >>
> >> Supporting multiple address spaces > non-cacheable accesses and more
> >> powerful mapping functions in the protocol files. Currently only one
> >> protocol, MOESI_hammer, supports non-cacheable accesses and even
> that
> >> hasn't been fully flushed out. Improving the mapping functions
> >> requires better coordination between the python config files and
> >> Ruby. I don't have a clear idea of how to do it, but I'm happy to discuss
> ideas.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I think most people would be happy in the above worked, although
> >> long term that would be a good solution.
> >>  the response,
> >>
> >> Ali
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
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