Thanks for the suggestion. I'll go through the doc and post another version.

--Weijun

> On Jan 3, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Benjamin Kaduk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am inclined to agree that it is better to change the right ones to
> upper case -- we really don't have a good reason to still be
> producing documents with this type of ambiguity anymore.
> 
> Once that is done we can decide whether the change is
> substantial enough to require re-running the last call.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:50:19PM -0500, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>> Personal opinion:
>> Given that to my reading "must" is used on the document in both the RFC 
>> 2119 sense and in a conventional English language sense, it would be 
>> worth clarifying the intention.  As such, I think it would be better to 
>> use the 8174 reference and go through changing the right ones to upper case.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>> 
>> On 1/2/18 9:40 PM, Weijun Wang wrote:
>>> Hi Joel and Ben
>>> 
>>> Author here.
>>> 
>>> I think I've removed the section because in fact none of the keywords 
>>> appears as capitalized inside the original document. In fact, RFC 8174 has 
>>> "that only UPPERCASE usage of the key words have the defined special 
>>> meanings".
>>> 
>>> I assume I'll need to go through the document and make some UPPERCASE and 
>>> some not, depending on the actual meanings.
>>> 
>>> Or, since this is a bis and changing the cases would be considered an 
>>> re-intepretation of the whole document (which wasn't my goal), is it more 
>>> reasonable to keep using RFC 2119 and leave all "must" and "required" in 
>>> lowercase?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Weijun
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Ben.  That would be good.
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Joel
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/2/18 8:38 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>>>>> Hi Joel,
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 03:30:31PM -0800, Joel Halpern wrote:
>>>>>> Reviewer: Joel Halpern
>>>>>> Review result: Ready with Issues
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
>>>>>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
>>>>>> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please wait for direction from your
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Document: draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis-06
>>>>>> Reviewer: Joel Halpern
>>>>>> Review Date: 2018-01-02
>>>>>> IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-11
>>>>>> IESG Telechat date: 2018-01-25
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Summary: This document is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard 
>>>>>> RFC
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Major issues: None
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Minor issues:
>>>>>>     Although ID-Nits does not complain about it, I can find no reference 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>     RFCs 2119 or 8174.  Some of the uses of "must" int he document are 
>>>>>> along
>>>>>>     the lines of "inherently follows", which is not normative language.  
>>>>>> But
>>>>>>     other uses are clearly normative in structure.   It is unclear why 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>     reference to RFC 2119 was removed as part of this update.
>>>>> Thanks for the review -- I'm a bit surprised that id-nits does not
>>>>> complain about the omission.
>>>>> I do not know why the -00 dropped that clause, but it does seem like
>>>>> the current normal text citing 8174 should be added before
>>>>> publication.
>>>>> -Ben
>>> 
>>> 

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