Just to clarify, I think the list should remain mixed sex. But it is a problem when on a list dedicated to getting more women involved, men post two to four times as much as women (depending on the week), with some men posting a couple times a day. It can feel like the "same old same old" - especially if the men are disagreeing a lot with what women say. Plus women often do need more encouragement to post.
George definitely could post a bit more; and some male posters should try to keep it down to one a day or five a week. I've been on lists of Palestinians and of African-Americans where they were working on their issues and I was always careful to just add info of general interest and occasional positive suggestions -- and not to post too much or be critical of their views since I felt they should work it out among themselves. Since most - not all - wikipedia issues are common to men and women, more might be expected of guys here. But not as much as seems to come through the list now. On 3/16/2011 8:42 AM, Marc Riddell wrote: > This is simply, nonsense! Don't you people realize that separating this List > into two distinct ones would underline, reinforce and actually signify the > very "gendergap" you are allegedly trying to resolve. This is people talking > with people. If there is a female or male here who has a problem > communicating with, or in the presence of, another gender - they do have a > problem. But a website Mailing List such as this is not the place to resolve > it. > > Marc Riddell > > > on 3/15/11 11:53 PM, [email protected] at [email protected] > wrote: > >> Yeah, George! A definite role model for the list; but with such a common >> sense attitude, you should feel free to post a tiny bit more :-) >> >> On 3/14/2011 8:33 PM, George Herbert wrote: >>> I realize that my replying is in a sense violating what I'm about to >>> say below, but... >>> >>> I and some others who are male are here and either listening, or >>> listening and briefly asking what the women present (and absent) feel >>> about things and not asserting what you do or should think. >>> >>> I would appreciate not being locked out of part of the discussion. I >>> appreciate that doing so necessarily means I should be minimizing my >>> speaking out, and maximizing my listening, and I hope I've done so >>> successfully. >>> >>> That said, if the dynamics here overall have created a list which is >>> not optimal for encouraging women to participate, which I can clearly >>> see is possible, I understand your wanting to do something about it. >>> Two lists as proposed might be necessary. >>> >>> If this has happened on the list designed to talk about and fix the >>> problem of that happening... *bang head on the wall* Talk about >>> frustrating. We're supposed to be the "good guys", literally 8-( >>> >>> >>> My two cents, and I will now go back to listening. >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
