Unless Erik has alter egos posting here, I didn't have any problems with * his* comments. I find the idea that men and women are automatically equal participants on a list like this a bit naive, but it's not offensive.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:04 PM, George Herbert <[email protected]>wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Laura Hale <[email protected]> wrote: > >[...] > > Erik's comment made me feel decidedly uncomfortable. On a list dedicated > to > > helping increase the female participation rates on Wikipedia, Erik > basically > > said: WOMENS! THEY IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ME! If I went to some > women's > > communities and I posted Erik's comment (and comments of other male > posters) > > with the context of these comments being said on a list dedicated to > > increasing female participation rates... > > > > ... well, you'd potentially have a mob involved. This effort? It would > > appear extremely sexist. (The large male involvement, the defensiveness > of > > men regaridng their participation contribute to this image.) That these > > sexist comments are coming from the Deputy Director of WMF? It makes > this > > worst because it is sexism coming from inside the institution. > > > > If you and Erik want to belong, that's great. It should be purely in > > support roles: Women say they are doing this project and need help. WMF > > officials step in and say we can help this way. If this was the general > > mode of male participation on the list, of specific support offered in > > response to specific requests, male involvement would be less > problematic. > > > I would like to hear more from other women here on your impressions of > and responses to Erik's comments. > > > -- > -george william herbert > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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